Apple confirms it's intentionally slowing down iPhones with old batteries

21 December 2017
The company said it decreased the performance in order to keep the battery life longer.

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  • AnonD-80360

kiloh3rtz, 23 Dec 2017I see a lot of hate and fanboys fights here as always opinions a... morejust change the battery man. no need to buy new phone.

AnonD-690051, 28 Dec 2017nope. apple fans just need to replace the battery, no need to bu... moreSome of the trolls told me to replace a sealed battery will void the water-resistant warranty, is this true? If Apple doesn't make the iPhone battery removable then the second choice is to adopt the Qnovo to prevent the sealed battery from replacing. Yes, the sealed battery can be removed and replace but it is more complicated and require more technically. Finally, Apple will adopt Qnovo because all the trend is to make a sealed battery not a removable battery.

  • AnonD-690051

3D Memorys, 26 Dec 2017Slow down the performance is not a solution to slow down the har... morenope. apple fans just need to replace the battery, no need to buy new phone.
they just need to pay around $85 for battery replacement.
Maybe this is the reason why apple and samsung dont use qnovo, to earn profit from battery replacement.

  • Hahaha

After using iphone since iphone 3g - I can finally say goodbye to iphone and upgraded huawei mate 10 pro. I couldnt be any more happier. Superfast, super responsive, and last more than a day- easssssssy. No more high payments for mediocre device.

3D Memorys, 26 Dec 2017Slow down the performance is not a solution to slow down the har... moreWell they can't very well adopt qnovo via a software update now can they, and this is aimed at legacy device's.

Going forward, who knows what approach they adopt.

Lex79, 23 Dec 2017Yeah your confusing the issue now. Of course this is related to ... moreSlow down the performance is not a solution to slow down the hardware/battery from aging. The better solution is adopt Qnovo technology to prolong the battery lifespan, Apple choice to slow down the performance is betray all the user. I think the Apple plan to force the user change phone every 2 years because the slow down iPhone with old battery policy is an excuses.

  • AnonD-286158

what if they won millions doller lawsuit ?? whole life set

  • Anonymous

AnonD-664474, 21 Dec 2017Okay, but the logic doesn't make any sense. Apple lies, you hate... moreWhen Samsung had the Note 7 fiasco, they admitted that it is their fault and did their best to resolve it (unit replacements & worldwide recall). They took full responsibility and promised to do better in the future and they did.

When Apple gets caught doing something wrong, they justify their mistake by saying it's a "feature" and make their customers pay for "discounted" repairs. Hence the haters.

  • Anonymous

You say the truth and you'd be put on Trial. if applicants you have so much of money to fight a case against APPLE, smarter way would be to rather buy a new phone(probably the latest iPhone) and get over and done with. All this is a big game to extracting money out of nothing and being famous globally on the way.

  • NJB

Its time to derive a new hashtag to open their eyes.... #goodbyiphone

AnonD-80165, 23 Dec 2017But dropping software support, by no means is the same as loweri... moreI didn't say it was the same approach did I, I said it was different.

Yes Goole decided to break their core apps out of the OS, what choice did they have, fragmentation was killing android.

  • AnonD-655832

Market desperately needs more competition. Are you there Microsoft?

  • kiloh3rtz

I see a lot of hate and fanboys fights here as always opinions are splited but lets face the fact:
1.You pay top dollar for the new cpu of lets say 2016 which runs at 1,2Ghz now in 2017 you get it to 1,1Ghz wont effect your performance much if in 2018 you go from 1,1Ghz to 800Mhz that mean in 2 years your phone wont and cant compete anymore with a new 1,2Ghz model why cuz its running at almost 60% of its original spec...and yes yes I know I know the tech behind 2016 is older than 2017 and even older than 2018 but even so, loseing so much processing power, consider this after 3-4 years your cpu is at 50% of his original power and it wont get an update to latest iOS cuz it cant handle it anymore well ofc it cant since your top dollar phone now is 50% off...This should be an option not a you get it or you get it...Also how does the softweare determin the slowdown is it based on model or based on cycles?cuz if its determin by model should be mention wtf...you pay 600-800 euros on an iphone 7 lets say and you update it and its underclocked even tho its brand new out of the box...

  • AnonD-80165

Lex79, 23 Dec 2017Again I agree on an element of planned obsolescence, yes. Howeve... moreBut dropping software support, by no means is the same as lowering the device performance.

That only means that those devices aren't updated to the last Android build. But contrary to Apple, most of the apps remain working with older Android builds, and Apple enforce developers (such as myself, so I NEED to own devices from both OSs) on app uploads to make that new version only available on the latest OS versions.

Also, most Android, even though after receiving software updates remains receiving security fixes.

So on Android devices, you may call the lack of support any whay you wish, but it doesn't nearly cripples the device usability the way Apple did, and on purpose with an objective in mind also...

  • Rusty

So thats why my ipad(2015) started to have lag after the last update...nice!

AnonD-80165, 23 Dec 2017I see your point. I personally don't buy this idea of extendi... moreAgain I agree on an element of planned obsolescence, yes. However the way I see it is that Android OEMs also operate a similar policy they just implement it differently, by dropping all software support for devices. Take blackberry for example, the Priv is only two years old and yet that's it as far as they are concerned. iPhone 5S by contrast runs the latest version of iOS and is 4 years old.

Apple are being sued over this as you say, and if the courts rule in the claimants favour you won't see me shedding a tear for Apple.

That said I still personally feel this is taken all out of context, that's at least partially Apples fault for not being upfront sure, and they may regret that soon, but still.......

I'll leave it to the courts to decides how guilty Apple are

  • kiloh3rtz

So wait if I buy an iPhone 7 in 2018 brand new and update to latest ios it will underperform just cuz ios slows it down on purpose...or it does read the cycle counts and if its over a % it gets underclocked?either way appl this is fucked and my iphone 7 is my last ios device...Sorry Apple I never meant to quit useing your products but this year I am swiching over....

  • AnonD-80165

Lex79, 23 Dec 2017Yeah your confusing the issue now. Of course this is related to ... moreI see your point.

I personally don't buy this idea of extending hardware lifetime with downclocks, because, in reality it doesn't do that.

That's what I meant. Never ever in any other device in the world, the battery never dropped the voltage enough so the SOC needed a downclocks. And on EVERY one of these devices, the battery degrades. So, why ONLY iPhones needs this?

Also, this "feature" could have been built it on the firmware since always. It didn't needed to be implemented only on the last update. But as it sound as it is a feature specifically on the newer updates, and from the SOC point of view an unneeded one, to.me it sound too much as programmed obsolence.

And not only me. Take a look on the other news about this here on gsmarena. Apple are getting sues...

Anonymous, 23 Dec 2017I see why Apple had no problem admitting this after they were ba... moreI did say Apple haven't handled this very well didn't I?

Pretty sure I mentioned that like a few times.........

  • OmNomSellsWirelessTe

This is literally the reason Apple Haters don't like Apple. They build the newest version of iOS around their newest processor and slow down older chip-sets over time, a double whammy on performance. An since I've been selling wireless it's been obvious that Apple was doing this...