Snapdragon 670 performance will split the difference between the 660 and the 845

05 January 2018
This mid-range chip is rumored to use the same Kryo cores as the flagship Snapdragon.

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  • rich watarious
  • fsT
  • 10 Feb 2018

many of the chips are not in use any more so they need need new ones to replace them. Those in the high range from SD800 up. Now there should be more mid-range and upper mid-range chipsets for us. You know those able to buy the mid-range phones are more than those buying the highest range phones.

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    • rich watarious
    • fsT
    • 10 Feb 2018

    Please bro, you have to understand. Qualcomm produce chipset for hundreds of mobile companies and the companies need varieties of chipset to power their phones. However there many models phone companies produce. When they use the same chipset for different or many models we complain we want some thing new. So Qualcomm is on the right path but we need all the coming chip to contain more and be power efficient.

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      • Stache
      • qUd
      • 10 Feb 2018

      LG superfan, 06 Jan 2018But still I can get a decent sd845 flagship in $500-$800 pr... moreOne plus 5t, snap 835 for $499.

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        • qUd
        • 10 Feb 2018

        Anonymous, 07 Jan 2018Well the it is more like 640, 660, 670 and 845 Are Intel i... moreThe Gpu's make up a big difference, cpu's speed for is only a slight upgrade year too year. Snapdragon 805, 808, 810, 820, 835, 845. Slight speed difference from year to year

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          • Stache
          • qUd
          • 10 Feb 2018

          LG superfan, 07 Jan 2018Well sd835 is better than 670 and I can get oneplus 6 which... moreThe only big difference is the Gpu's, the cpu's speed for speed is only a slight upgrade.

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            • AnonD-730559
            • swK
            • 13 Jan 2018

            Those could the virtually the same processors with disabled features. Some qualify for better performance, more cores, more cache, while others do not so they are reprogrammed and downgraded to cheaper ones: faulty cache and cores disabled etc. other thing could be the smaller processors occupy less space on the wafer, so there would be more of those produced from the wafer of the same size. With fully automated processes it should be quite easy to change the masks, cutting, welding etc. etc.

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              • Anonymous
              • v3B
              • 12 Jan 2018

              I personally still don't quite understand the need for so many SOC chips.. I think having at most 1-2 great SOCs that can be mass produced on the cheap for everyone and works as good as what iPhones have.. maybe this will help with android's fragmentation issue

                ZolaIII, 05 Jan 2018Well you want balance? How about old Mi Max (first generati... moreMy whole point of balance was, we are getting SD625 based entry level and mid range products but no sign of proper SD660 based phones which can offer best balance of battery (SD6xx) and performance (SD8xx), and we see SD670 in news! Xiaomi Max series is not a phone per se, more of phablet which is somewhere between a phone and tablet but then again we can't be talking of just 1 brand and 1 product for balance as per your view. We need entry level SD62x/SD63x phones, mid range SD66x or SD67x and finally flagship SD8xx but sadly, this is not true so far. Hopefully 2018 brings something better!

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                  • Kangal
                  • uCX
                  • 08 Jan 2018

                  Oh, and by the way to see how things stack up and progress we need to observe them from afar objectively throughout the decade.

                  It's easiest to track the historical upgrade for the high-end chipsets on a year-by-year basis in the Android Ecosystem. The low-end segment is much harder as some devices offer much better value overall despite using worse soc's, so it muddies the water. And the mid-range chipsets are definitely the hardest because there is a crossing of the low-end and the previous years' flagship chipsets that come into play. I'll try to stick to a single OEM so that comparisons are more unified/less distortion by differences in the Skinned OS.

                  Without further ado...
                  --- Year ----- Specification -------------- Chipset Name --------------- Product Example
                  2008 ----- 500Mhz ARM 11 --------------- QSD S1 ------------ HTC Google One
                  2009 ----- 500Mhz Cortex A8 ------------ TI OMAP 3430 --- Motorola Droid
                  2010 ----- 1.0GHz Cortex A8 ------------- Exynos 3110 ----- Samsung Galaxy S (Epic 4G)
                  2011 ----- 1.0GHz Dual Cortex A9 ------ Exynos 4210 ----- Samsung Galaxy S2
                  **2011 --- 1.5GHz Dual Cortex A9 ------ Exynos 4212 ----- Meizu MX
                  2012 ----- 1.5GHz Dual Krait-200 ------- QSD 400 ---------- Samsung Galaxy S3-US
                  **2012 --- 1.5GHz Dual Krait-300 ------- QSD 405 ---------- Samsung Galaxy S4 mini
                  2013 ----- 1.7GHz Quad Krait-300 ------ QSD 600 ---------- Samsung Galaxy S4
                  2013 ----- 2.2GHz Quad Krait-400 ------ QSD 800 ---------- Samsung Note 3
                  2014 ----- 2.7GHz Quad Krait-450 ------ QSD 805 ---------- Samsung Note 4
                  2015 ----- 2.0GHz Quad Cortex A57 --- Exynos 7420 ----- Samsung Galaxy S6
                  **2016 --- 2.3GHz Dual Cortex A72 ---- QSD 820 ---------- Samsung Galaxy S7
                  2016 ----- 2.1GHz Quad Cortex A72 --- Exynos 8890 ----- Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge
                  2017 ----- 2.4GHz Quad Cortex A73 ---- QSD 835 --------- Samsung Galaxy S8
                  2018 ----- 2.7GHz Quad Cortex A75 ---- QSD 845 --------- Samsung Galaxy S9

                  *important stepping and bonus data for your pleasure : )

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                    • Kangal
                    • uCX
                    • 08 Jan 2018

                    These are the Best Chips (in classes) for 2018:
                    Class - Year - Chipset - Price - Efficiency - Total Score - Single-core - Value
                    4 - 2018 - MediaTek - $10 - -
                    3 - 2017 - QSD 636 - $20 - -
                    2 - 2017 - QSD 660 - $30 - -
                    1 - 2018 - QSD 845 - $60 - -

                    Good/Relevant Chipsets with less Value:
                    Class - Year - Chipset - Price - Efficiency - Total Score - Single-core - Value
                    3 - 2016 - QSD 625 - $20 - -
                    3 - 2017 - QSD 630 - $20 - -
                    3 - 2018 - QSD 430 - $20 - -
                    2 - 2016 - QSD 820 - $30 - -
                    2 - 2016 - QSD 821 - $30 - -
                    1 - 2017 - QSD 835 - $50 - -
                    2 - 2018 - QSD 670 - $40 - -

                    Outdated Chipsets figures as a bonus for a frame of reference:
                    Class - Year - Chipset - Price - Efficiency - Total Score - Single-core - Value
                    1 - 2013 - QSD 800 - Discontinued -
                    1 - 2014 - QSD 801 - Disc. -
                    1 - 2014 - QSD 805 - Disc. -
                    1 - 2015 - QSD 808 - Disc. -
                    1 - 2015 - QSD 810 - Disc. -
                    3 - 2015 - QSD 617 - $15 -
                    2 - 2016 - QSD 650 - $20 -
                    2 - 2016 - QSD 652 - $35 -
                    2 - 2016 - QSD 653 - $35 -

                    There's really no such thing as a "Bad Product" only a "Bad Price". If they priced the new QSD 845 at $100 I would say its Bad, or at least Bad Value. And while I generally am Bear-ish on the overused QSD 625 chipset, especially in phones sold Unlocked for $300, I would say its Great Value if it was almost free and could be had on phones selling for $50. It's literally a game of trade-offs. The same idea applies to cars, an old Hyundai i30 isn't a great car... but if someone was selling it to me for $1,000 I'd definitely get that over say a brand new Honda Civic which sells for at least x30 more.

                    edit: Please hold as I gather all the data for the efficiency level, overall score, single-core performance... then solve for the Overall Value Rating.


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                      • Anonymous
                      • ibb
                      • 07 Jan 2018

                      And some phones still come out with 625 smh

                        Anonymous, 06 Jan 2018Old models... Yes. New models, most likely not. Always the ... moreWell sd835 is better than 670 and I can get oneplus 6 which will likely cost $650

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                          • Anonymous
                          • pdH
                          • 07 Jan 2018

                          Fulljack, 06 Jan 2018It's a CPU-based SoC, you should've compare it with CPU ... moreWell the it is more like
                          640, 660, 670 and 845 Are Intel i5-i9 series
                          And
                          625, 630 Are itel Atom series...

                          ;)

                          Ofcourse there is hard to make direct comparisons, but all socs in list startin 640 and above has 73, or 75 based fast cores and all below that has a53-a55 cores aka midrange cores.
                          So that makes some difference in what gategory each socs belong. But even that is not easy because gpu varies a lot among those snapdragons...

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                            • Anonymous
                            • pdH
                            • 06 Jan 2018

                            LG superfan, 06 Jan 2018But still I can get a decent sd845 flagship in $500-$800 pr... moreOld models... Yes. New models, most likely not. Always the same, good old flagship comes down a lot I one year!

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                              • Anonymous
                              • SiN
                              • 06 Jan 2018

                              Akorn Farmer, 06 Jan 2018Flagship AP of Qualcomm, like SD820 or SD835 generally cost... moreI don't know where do you get this idea, but in fact cost of flagship SoCs is around 45-50 USD.

                                Would like to see LG, HTC, Sony, Sharp, Razer, Huawei, and X. use the 670.

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                                  • AnonD-269506
                                  • dZY
                                  • 06 Jan 2018

                                  Anonymous, 05 Jan 2018670 is not midrange. It is lower highend and thats why cost... moreOfftopic: Lower high-end...really? xD
                                  Mid-range is the right term and you can even say upper mid-range, but lower high-end is a term you definitely made up yourself

                                  Ontopic: S670 will not use the same kryo cores according to the previous leak, hope this will give the much needed performance boost through the android mid-range.

                                    Flagship AP of Qualcomm, like SD820 or SD835 generally costs around $70. The Snapdragon 670 should be priced about 2/3 of flagship, around $43. So mean price of phone with SD670 AP should be around $400-500 USD like OPPO R11. I guess that SD670 will not be so popular as its predecessor SD660 was not so popular. It was adopted by only 10 phone models. I expect that SD640 will be much more popular than SD670. SD640 will be true successor of very successful SD625.

                                      Simon, 05 Jan 2018This is actually a very sanely clocked 845. Sure, it is a w... moreBut if phones with this chip hit 400$ or so it becomes too expensive, like the X4 with the 630. Then fully fledged flagships like the one plus or even the essential phone make more sense.

                                        Anonymous, 05 Jan 2018670 is not midrange. It is lower highend and thats why cost... moreBut still I can get a decent sd845 flagship in $500-$800 price range

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