Sunday debate: Is removing the headphone jack the way forward?
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- Anonymous
- BiP
- 29 Apr 2024
FinnishInquisition, 23 Jan 2018Yes, it was a problem before we had USB-C, as USB-C was a p... moreFallacious argument focusing on its use in phones only. I can take good earphones and listen to an old Sony walkman, a new laptop, a high quality mp3 player, a smartphone movie on the train, and adapt other analogue devices with basic electronics that I can make at home, if I want to go that far. Whilst USB uses more battery, or prevents charging at least, is a complete MESS of a 'standard' and the two TRS microphone jack standards look good in comparison. Idiots keep releasing DACs that are not class compliant so cannot be used on all my devices, for example. TRS does not have that problem. Is a proven technology. Disruptors are just trying to force change for profit and control. Vote for freedom!
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- Anonymous
- BiP
- 29 Apr 2024
FinnishInquisition, 25 Jan 2018I'm fairly certain two blogs and a conspiracy site doesn't ... moreThey had the same attitude about smoking, until the evidence had actually had time to be collected, and cancer takes time to take effect, hard to prove cause-and-effect, etc. Meanwhile, capitalists will do you over to make money. Even if it kills you. Let alone gives you poor sound quality and battery life. Regresses the experience. Any questions?
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- Anonymous
- BiP
- 29 Apr 2024
FinnishInquisition, 28 Jan 2018You mention one phone that was poorly design on all levels.... moreThen add in the fact that USB is a security risk (BadUSB attack theoretically but I have seen real world examples) and who wants to plug their phone into different earphones or vice versa?
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- Anonymous
- BiP
- 29 Apr 2024
daniel gomez, 27 Dec 2022I hope this connector goes away soon, it wears out easily w... moreIt is a TRS connector which is a design that has stood the test of time due to durability. Use an short L-shaped jack extension so the jack doesn't stick out perpendicular to the body of the phone. Something the idiots with USB-C headphones expect you to do. More broken phones equals more replacement sales. I hate the idiot consumers who pathetically do what they are told like this.
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- daniel gomez
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- 27 Dec 2022
I hope this connector goes away soon, it wears out easily when the cable is pulled to the side. It has happened to me many times that this connector has been damaged by doing this.
even, currently it is the only connector that has given me problems; Previously, the charging connector for android cell phones also gave me problems, but since the type-c connector existed, I no longer had any problems.
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- Prateek646
- vGI
- 21 Feb 2021
AnonD-745954, 20 Mar 2018Meh, I generally tend to not throw my phone in the pool. I... moreCheck Sony's Xperia 1 - II and Xperia 5 - II.
Pros:
1. Sony has stock android which is better
2. Even better music quality due to audio drivers they use
3. It has top of the line specs like 120hz display
2. Camera will beat out any phone you find
Cons (pros):
1. It just doesn't look flashy, It's more focused towards functionality than looking expensive
2. Not available anywhere
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- 20 Mar 2018
FinnishInquisition, 23 Jan 2018The fewer ingress points you need to secure, the safer the ... moreMeh, I generally tend to not throw my phone in the pool. If there's still one company using the 3.5 mm Jack they get my business. As long as the sacrifices aren't too great.
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- AnonD-745954
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- 20 Mar 2018
FinnishInquisition, 28 Jan 2018You mention one phone that was poorly design on all levels.... moreSorry man you mentioned apple and design. That company can't even design in expandible memory ports. They've been useless to me for quite some time.
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- Rich watarious
- CGH
- 19 Feb 2018
Removing the headphone jack is just simply denial of our happiness of using the phone. They don't have to remove it because they want to make the phone slim or water proof.
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- L337
- LcH
- 14 Feb 2018
If removing the headphone jack helps a brand make their phones waterproof, they need to up their game, Sony's been doing it since the Z1, and they all have the 3.5mm audio jack to this day.
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- FinnishInquisition
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- 28 Jan 2018
Thesis86, 28 Jan 2018Phone companies aren't using space effectively without the ... moreYou mention one phone that was poorly design on all levels. Why don't we talk about devices like the iPhone 7, iPhone X, Essential Phone, Razer Phone and HTC U11? They're very optimised in terms of space.
And you CAN pick up USB-C headphones produced by third-party audio manufacturers such as B&W, Libratones, etc, and have them work with any USB-C audio device. If you instead buy headphones from a smartphone manufacturer you best check before you buy. Xiaomi tend to make passive USB-C headphones for their phones while HTC have gone pants-on-head retarded with their proprietary USB-C headphones for their U-series phones.
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- Thesis86
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- 28 Jan 2018
FinnishInquisition, 23 Jan 2018USB-C isn't a locked ecosystem. It's an open standard. A... morePhone companies aren't using space effectively without the headphone jack. There have been many teardowns showing how poorly that extra space has been used (HTC U Ultra for instance). And your USB-C headphone solution would be great...if I could pick up any USB-C headphone and it would work with any phone. Currently, this is not the case. So your only solution is a Bluetooth receiver or wireless buds (the buds do suck and are way too expensive). Your overall argument is just weak.
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- LostInTheSorrow
- DE1
- 27 Jan 2018
I wouldn't require a headphone jack if my phone had two USB Type-C or USB 3.* ports.
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- AnonD-508218
- 0iF
- 27 Jan 2018
Anonymous, 21 Jan 2018Removing the wire and voliá you have even more freedomNooooo I love my headset freedom lol
Hate using Bluetooth
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- FinnishInquisition
- 8X{
- 25 Jan 2018
2portsplease, 23 Jan 2018I'm not saying any conspiracy theories or claims. This is a... moreI'm fairly certain two blogs and a conspiracy site doesn't qualify as scientific evidence.
Here you go: http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/88/12/09-071852/en/
In short: No links can be found between radio frequency exposure and negative health effects. It doesn't matter how much you want to blindly believe it. Evidence is against you.
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- Prometheous
- yZv
- 25 Jan 2018
2portsplease , 23 Jan 2018Thank you Prometheus for backing me up, bless you.I am backing the truth and what you said is the TRUTH. Cheers.
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- AnonD-731363
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- 24 Jan 2018
s4f786, 24 Jan 2018Well that's the person's fault then, no one tells them to l... moreMan thinks whatthewer you want. I am 36 years old and i speak to the point i know whats going on seen it many times in my life or news spoke about.
As you said its a person fault but these persons never understands they live their own way far fro reality.
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- s4f786
- B{t
- 24 Jan 2018
AnonD-731363, 22 Jan 2018Yes but they always set to max and walk on streets and stop... moreWell that's the person's fault then, no one tells them to listen to music on max, in fact most devices give a warning when putting high volume, if some one ignores that that's not the devices fault. Dude seriously I don't know if you're trolling or just being stupid in purpose but regardless you make no sense at all.
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- FinnishInquisition
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- 24 Jan 2018
chisslegrog, 24 Jan 2018That's kind of line saying old cars were problem because th... moreYes, ports in general are a problem with regard to their size, dust and water ingress as well as breaking from wear and tear. But removing them is usually an even bigger problem, as their function is very much needed. Now USB-C can fill the role of both ports, so it's one step in the right direction.
And Apple didn't jump the gun. Their iPhone 7 is outselling all other iPhones. The Androids without the 3.5 mm port are outselling their predecessors. Most people don't care. The only people caring about the 3.5 mm removal tend to come online and whine about it on forums, unable to handle change.