Apple starts manufacturing its 7nm A12 chips
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- Anonymous
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- 23 May 2018
sadh, 23 May 2018845 and exynos be like
~ Whoooaaaaa ~
With A12, apps wi... moreYou wants apps to open on their own even if you don't want them to?
That is not good at all.
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- AnonD-356176
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- 23 May 2018
I hope they extend their performance lead over the lackluster snapdragons, to further show the hubris the idiots at Qualcomm are overflowing with.
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- 23 May 2018
Kiyasuriin, 23 May 2018Just in CPU prowess. to really defeat the A11, not to ment... moreTrue and good point on the Krait ones. At that time QC was still leading the way. Unfortunately QC rushed to 64bit, not to let Apple go away with it, and it massively backfired with the SD808 and 810. SD820 was back to custom cores but lack of planning and development funds meant they've fallen behind Apple even further, so what we got for the SD835 and 845 is I think plan B, that is semi-custom cores, with good 20-30% performance and 10-15% efficiency gains on previous generation, in line with the Cortex ones (A73 vs A75). The good part is we're no longer getting experiment like with the 810/820. The nasty part, and I see nobody is really having the heart to tell, is that going semi-custom and at ARM's rhythm, they're never going to catch Apple. Perhaps QC understood that and is not even trying to compete anymore.
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- Anonymous
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- 23 May 2018
sadh, 23 May 2018845 and exynos be like ~ Whoooaaaaa ~ With A12, apps wi... moreAnd together with iOS 12, it will not be held back by bugs and laggy animations, like the iPhone 8/X which was slower than the iPhone 7 at first.
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- Anonymous
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- 23 May 2018
John, 23 May 20187 nm Chipset will Invain If Apple kept its T... moreEverything with A11 and above won‘t get throttled because they have some kind of new power management chip
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- Anonymous
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- 23 May 2018
leledumbo, 23 May 2018Powerful but useless SoC, because the software cannot make ... moreRemember that iPhones get dropped in software support when they become too slow. The faster the iPhone, the longer it gets updates and the longer they get security updates and the more features they get and the longer they get app support.
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- Anonymous
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- 23 May 2018
Smartphones Fan, 23 May 2018soo boring now bit faster what for ?? a12,13,14,15,,15,A20Snapdragon 835 845 855 865... 895
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- Smartphones Fan
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- 23 May 2018
soo boring now bit faster what for ?? a12,13,14,15,,15,A20
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- leledumbo
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- 23 May 2018
Powerful but useless SoC, because the software cannot make a good use all of its power. At best you can render 4K videos faster, but that would only be meaningful if you're a vlogger or something. Most of the time multitasking between social media apps and most gaming will eat only a fraction of it. W-A-S-T-E-D.
- Geric.770
- uSQ
- 23 May 2018
Kiyasuriin, 23 May 2018Just in CPU prowess. to really defeat the A11, not to ment... moreYes. Cortex is already outdated when compared to Apple chips. They cannot make their own because they have issues facing on Apple, and doesn't have money for this project.
- Kiyasuriin
- nYT
- 23 May 2018
Geric.770, 23 May 2018Eh. What about you, Qualcomm?
Apple is already manufactur... moreJust in CPU prowess.
to really defeat the A11, not to mention the A12. Qualcomm needs to DITCH the cortex architectures and design their own fully functional CPUs. (like they did back then in 2012 with Krait cores.) and that costs a massive amount of money. money that sadly qualcomm cannot afford. so they just lightly tweak the cortex core. and name them Kryo.
- Kiyasuriin
- nYT
- 23 May 2018
Shanti Dope, 23 May 2018HAHAHAHAHAHA Qualcomm is so far behind!
845 can't even bea... moreIntel is already in the game. with their ATOM series.
I guess only exynos ran really face Ax series.
- Kiyasuriin
- nYT
- 23 May 2018
dudecool, 23 May 2018x86 Architecture is apparently not as easy to scale down as ARM You are mixing apples and oranges there. mate
The X86 and ARM architecture refer to the software side of the CPU, and SoCs in generals.
the X86, originating from the ancient CPU called the 8086 by intel in 1976-1979. is a backwards compatible system that can range from the most modern i7-8700k to the 8086 40 years ago. and so is Arm. (As long the instruction set is compatible with the older CPU systems.)
DIE SIZE. and LITHOGRAPHY. means how tiny are the transistors. it doesn't even correlate to the architecture aside of the physical aspect of building it.
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- John
- uWJ
- 23 May 2018
7 nm Chipset will Invain If Apple kept its Tradition of CPU Throttling.
- Geric.770
- uSQ
- 23 May 2018
Eh. What about you, Qualcomm?
Apple is already manufacturing this 7nm chipsets. Also, you can't even beat the A11 Bionic chip scores on benchmarks. :)
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- 23 May 2018
Shanti Dope, 23 May 2018HAHAHAHAHAHA Qualcomm is so far behind! 845 can't even bea... moreQualcomm is ahead in gpu.
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- 23 May 2018
O S, 23 May 2018Currently, it's physically impossible to go lower than 5nm.... moreIt's possible because the actual size size is larger than the manufacturing says it is at least 10 times larger than the supposed manufacturing size,
A 14Nm process die has an total area more than 130Nm, so a 1Nm can be made with a total area of 10Nm
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- Dorna
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- 23 May 2018
sadh, 23 May 2018845 and exynos be like ~ Whoooaaaaa ~ With A12, apps wi... moreNot happening because IOS anatiomd are too elaborate and drawn out,Apple have have to reduce the unnecessary springing slow animation
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- john
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- 23 May 2018
Shanti Dope, 23 May 2018HAHAHAHAHAHA Qualcomm is so far behind! 845 can't even bea... moreThis year Kirin 980 chip for new Huawei is also manufactured under TSMC 7 nm chip. If rumors are true its going to be very powerful according to the benchmark scores. lets wait and see. what this year both manufacturers bring.
- Kiyasuriin
- nYT
- 23 May 2018
The scores are insane too...
if the geekbench scores are to be believed. we're talking about x1.4 the score of Exynos 9810. (that's about 5200 points ON A SINGLE CORE! compared to 3700 of the mongoose M3) and a staggering 13,000 on multi. (I think that's about x1.45 compared to both the multicore score of Snapdragon 845 and the exynos 9810)