DxOMark: Xiaomi Mi 8 beats the Samsung Galaxy S9+ in still shots
- k
- kavint
- D0g
- 31 May 2018
AnonD-704307, 31 May 2018Sonny had great hardware but shit software, a few years bac... moreAgree.after wasting money in z1,z2 z3.left Sony for ever.worst in software optimization of image...if I had those money I could have bought Sony 4k oled..
Sony best in tv, phone quality but worst in their phone photography, best hardware but failed to get good results. Pure. View is best but u need to consider p20 pro.they have done wonders..if u consider doxo is getting paid by huwai, I can say the same for other site who downplay huwai because it's not launch in USA...lol. doxo ratings may not be the best but do hold value. I love Sony and sorry I miss it but
- S
- SpiritWolf
- m@2
- 31 May 2018
Actually best camera in 12mpx range if we are talking about picture quality only, is HTC U11+ camera. Beats Pixel 2 hands down, check photo compare tool.
- P
- Peter UK
- 39x
- 31 May 2018
AnonD-704307, 31 May 2018Sonny had great hardware but shit software, a few years bac... moreSounds more like America to me
- x
- xXoXx
- 3E4
- 31 May 2018
Ahahahah, its not hard to beat S9 duo,in fact those two only have saturated and punchy colors combined with a fake detail most like a cartoonish look.
Even my V10 from 2015 beat that sub-rated pieceof junK.
Meh, crapple and sammy are ll the same, money buys everything. But in real life they arent closeto the best, Xiaomi do better in a lot of things than both of those cant do: Price va performance ratio and features.
Anyone saying the oposite are well wrong! PERIOD.
- a
- adrian
- La8
- 31 May 2018
dxo was the main page for photographers to see lens quality and sensor quality without real world results which can be different depending on what you want
thing is photographers know how to look pass the scores and know a lot more of what they want besides score on a lens for resolution
for me is a lot more about microcontrast,colors,bokeh quality, convenience and use of focal length (for example i usually use 50-85mm primes at around f2.2 so i want lenses that offer me good quality at that interval for specific uses, for the rest i have different lenses that need to be better at other things)
in mobile they went way beyond what resolution you need, per pixel resolution is useless for quite some time and they need to concentrate on the whole as in resolution 10 points+ is less than 2 points in software enhancement (noise, color, etc ), focus time, shutter lag, and don't even get me started on lens quality and flash (or continuous light that they call flash .. )
- ?
- Anonymous
- 8K6
- 31 May 2018
umeshk, 31 May 2018I believe only in gsmarena camera compare tool...Check the photo tool here.
Samples of iphone x can be defeated by phones from 2016. Still they praise the shots.
- r
- r33fd
- LaF
- 31 May 2018
Salt, 31 May 2018High pitch or low pitch? Just kidding.
You should. Revi... moreSorry.
English not my native language.
Will know from now.
- ?
- Anonymous
- 8K6
- 31 May 2018
Shanti Dope, 31 May 2018Apparently, in their presentation a few weeks back, they sh... moreNo, the problem is many tech sites are biased. They dont treat brands same way. Ppl read and according to that choose next phone , they talk to friends and family too.
PA did a Q/A about OP6, someone asked why they gave 9 if the phone lacks stuff other have . Answer was because OP6 is super fast.
XZ2 and G7 were rated below OP6. U12 will be too, no doubt. All these 3 are better than OP6 at 90% of stuff. Not even S9+ has score above OP6.
Phones like U Ultra, XZs and G6 got bashed by using cpu from 2016. But Huawei does every year to P series, it was not a CON.
If something is a CON for A, it has to be CON for B, C, D etc..
I think some points Sony could do more. But it is funny to see that the lack of OLED, OIS and 80% of screen body ratio has much more weight than great stuff phone brings.
Speakers since Z2 have been high level. Many controls of audio.
Quality is better than iX or s9. Loudness is not quality.
LCD is better than the LCD used by LG and Apple.
All XZ2 series have HDR 10 bit screen, sRGB 153%. Iphone X oled has 103% and 8 bit screen. Same techs they use on their tv they put on their phones. Many controls to tune screen as you prefer.
Screen turns SDR content to HDR. No other phone can.
There is no limit of time to record 4K, other brands dont allow more than 10 min. There is 4K HDR video.
Burst mode keeps focus without any blur, predective capture, 960 fps 1080p. ISO 51200 of XZ2P.. All this come from their mirrorless and cybershot.
If you dont like the device, it is okay. Personal opinion.
But saying that they dont bring new stuff is lack of honesty.
The only brand that bring tech from other divisions of the company.
- ?
- Anonymous
- IW@
- 31 May 2018
It's Xiaomi's sponsorship turn and so Xiaomi makes it to the top of DXOmark's rankings, FOR NOW. But as sure as the sun rises, other brands will take the throne soon and take turns at the top spot. So dear readers of Gsmarena, don't be naive. Forget DXOmark ratings and rankings. Dxomark ratings/rankings should have ZERO influence in your phone buying or purchase decisions if you are truly concerned about true image quality. Use Gsmarena's photo compare tool instead if you really want to compare true image quality among flagship phones undet identical laboratory controlled conditions. Choose the one which you think looks best in the photo compare tool comparisons. It doesn't matter what brand you choose, The important thing is you made the right choice by not trusting DXOmark with your purchase decision.
- DaleCooper
- g3x
- 31 May 2018
DXOMarks are not genuine. If somebody still thinks that DXOMark is genuine then please see the Score of Nokia 8 and Lava Z25. Nokia 8 has a far better camera then Lava Z25 but scores tell a different story.
Lava Z25 scores 70 (Photo 74, Video 62)
Nokia 8 scores 68 (Photo 72, Video 62).
- ?
- Anonymous
- 80T
- 31 May 2018
I remember how DxOMark were completely unknown and uncared about before Google decided to use their rating of the Pixel 1 as a marketing argument
- ?
- Anonymous
- IW@
- 31 May 2018
Anonymous, 31 May 2018Nobody serious about smartphone photography should ever tru... moreDxomark collaborates with phone manufacturers who are their sponsors so that the phone models they review can get better scores. That's clear conflict of interest. No wonder scores and ratings keep increasing even when there is no significant image quality improvement. The multiple phone manufacturer sponsorships means phone brands take turns in the top spot. Thus you have Samsung then Pixel then iPhone then Huawei then repeat cycle. It's a pity many smartphone buyers make purchasing decisions based on DXOmark ratings when the truth is there's negligible difference in camera quality among flagship phones. The user's skills will have a far more bigger contribution as phone cameras have plateaud.
- P
- PapaRafe
- PBb
- 31 May 2018
Tarik, 31 May 2018They said good thing about Zenfone 5 camera as well, and no... moreZenfone 5 camera don't perform well?
First time I heard...lol
- Geric.770
- uSQ
- 31 May 2018
Anonymous, 31 May 2018I think the main successful years for Sony were when they t... moreThe best Sony phone I've ever used in my whole entire life is the Sony Ericsson Xperia Play. Half console, half smartphone product that started my smartphone world. This is the best I've ever used, period.
Yeah, camera is decent, nothing mind blowing but the rest is just purely unique. :)
- ?
- Anonymous
- 3EJ
- 31 May 2018
Shanti Dope, 31 May 2018Apparently, in their presentation a few weeks back, they sh... moreI think the main successful years for Sony were when they teamed up with Ericsson.
The great K750i was top of its class both in usability and price/quality-ratio.
With the K700i people started to notice, the K800i was the very best from them back then. In fact most of their featurephones were very good (even the lower range like K550i which was in essence a rebadged K750i).
Then with the start o/t smartphone era they confused people with the original Xperia (windows mobile) which was a gorgeous device but uber-expensive. While the P-series was still regarded as top yet becoming less popular due to the fall of Symbian. IMHO they had a brief moment without Ericsson with the Xperia S, U and P which were truly original due to that transparent LED-lighted strip at the bottom. I wish they'd continued on that design with better utilisation of that strip.
- ?
- Anonymous
- 8K6
- 31 May 2018
Anonymous, 31 May 2018Nobody serious about smartphone photography should ever tru... moreShould we trust ppl that wake up and decide to become youtubers?
Where did they study about photography? Do they know that different settings, FOV, DOF give different results?
- S
- Salt
- DPT
- 31 May 2018
r33fd, 31 May 2018I take those ratings with a pitch of salt.
But if we lea... moreHigh pitch or low pitch? Just kidding.
You should. Reviews should serve as guides.
- ?
- Anonymous
- 8K6
- 31 May 2018
Set, 31 May 2018Sony XZ2's customers have reported that the camera is not a... moreMany ppl are satisfied with XZ2 shots.. Except some stupid youtubers that get paid to bash few and praise others.
I can easily set ISO 50 for phone A, ISO 120 for B then upload pics and pretend is was auto mode.
Remember when some ppl got paid to bash HTC years ago?
How can the same device generate so different opinions about camera? It is great, good or bad.
It cant be all together.
The biggest challenge for a camera is to register as close as we see with our eyes, now tech sites started to say POOR DR when a photo does not have more contrast than reality.
To me pics from Pixel look so artificial, like made for Instagram.
Grass is greener, sky purple, tanned skin..
- ?
- Anonymous
- kWZ
- 31 May 2018
A lot of crocodile tears, love it.