Counterpoint: Nokia was the 9th smartphone brand globally by shipments

01 August 2018
HMD isn't even 2 years old yet, but it already entered the Top 10 (thanks to a whopping 782% year on year growth).

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Why is it that Lenovo and Motorola are combined but Oppo and Vivo aren't?
They would beat Huawei and Apple if they were.

    Akash, 02 Aug 2018Another Chinese brand but sells decent amount of smartphone... moreOh, that’s interesting. Link please?

      782%. Literally off the charts!

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        • Abdu Al Salami Kebab
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        • 03 Aug 2018

        HMD Nokia is de wei! OwO

          pl2rts, 02 Aug 2018Like every company that order in furniture from china for l... moreYour statement would make a lot of sense if companies like apple and LG were making all not making phones in markets line China and Vietnam. Hmd sells a lot in China cause that is where the market is. They are slowly expanding their footprint. However calling them Chinese when everyone else makes phones in cheap markets is silly.

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            • 03 Aug 2018

            nokia is the best still

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              Trilulilu, 02 Aug 2018Where is that country, in Germany Nokia smartphones phones ... moremaybe a country that knows nokia well.

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                Anonymous, 02 Aug 2018Nokia5 , 6 and nokia 7 are selling great ,great phone for g... morei agree

                  pl2rts, 02 Aug 2018If there devices are sold most in China then there money is... moreThere's a massive difference between consumers and investors. If you don't know that, then maybe you should hold off on commenting on the subject.

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                    • Anonymous
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                    • 02 Aug 2018

                    Can someone explain with facts as to why HMD Global Oy is a Chinese company? Try not to beat around the bush.

                      BrendonF, 02 Aug 2018Yes Nokia is a Chinese company as much as Apple is a Chines... moreLike every company that order in furniture from china for low cost just to sell with there brand and make profit cause locally is too expensive to built and the quality is not even that much better but the price will be 2-3 times cause it's not "made in China"

                        FinnishInquisition, 02 Aug 2018If you want to talk about where the money comes from for HM... moreIf there devices are sold most in China then there money is coming from China. From the market that have them the most and are sold for the most units. So the money for the products mostly come from China's people who buy there products. Cant you not read it from that guys comment ? Or you to blinded fanboy of nokia ?

                          bob, 02 Aug 2018here in our country nokia phones is everywhere in every tec... moreI dont think that was the point in there
                          I can get Nokias too with insane delay and have them around every shop in here.
                          If i want support by them i need to contact them trough the retailer that sold me there device.
                          I can do it directly with them too, but thats not the same where you would go to a shop that do only Nokia devices. I have Apple shops all around who deal only apple products and are allowed by Apple to repair them or replace them. I dont have Xiaomi shops around by heard there are few in Europe already.

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                            • 02 Aug 2018

                            Is this a Brand or a Company statistic?
                            If it's Brand, it should state Nokia not HMD, and Lenovo/Motorola should be separate brands.
                            If it's per company, I still don't understand why don't count BBK Electronics as a whole, they are the third biggest smartphone company if you add their brands Oppo, Vivo and Oneplus sales.
                            I feel this is inconsistent.

                              Anonymous, 02 Aug 2018Although your ad hominems already took your credibility awa... morePost. Sources.

                              All you've posted so far have been baseless conspiracy theories and made-up claims.

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                                • 02 Aug 2018

                                and no one asks about how reliable these numbers are.
                                lol

                                Who can check these quantities?
                                (Each manufacturer tells the numbers, as he likes . . .)


                                Who paid for this survey?

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                                  • 02 Aug 2018

                                  Alas, they are making good quality products and offering good service repair quality; I don't care where they are founded from.

                                    ...n[o]tchia, 02 Aug 2018Nope. I never said such thing. Maybe someone else did it. ... moreYes Nokia is a Chinese company as much as Apple is a Chinese company. :)

                                    Nokia is a finland based company and only the phones are manufactured in China like so many other non chinese companies.

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                                      FinnishInquisition, 02 Aug 2018Except the major investments comes from the HMD founder Jea... moreAlthough your ad hominems already took your credibility away, I’ll answer one more time.

                                      Do you even know the etymytology of the word ”ginko”? It might open your eyes a bit.

                                      If you have a hard time accepting the fact that HMD is a Chinese operation it’s not my problem and calling those who talk about things how they really are conspiracy theorists only make your arguments even less credible.

                                        Anonymous, 02 Aug 2018If you want to follow that path; there's nothing that prove... moreExcept the major investments comes from the HMD founder Jean-Francois Baril's venture capital company Ginko Ventures in Switzerland. The investments from Chinese companies are made from their own respective companies, not via proxy companies. What you are proposing is a conspiracy theory worthy of the biggest tin-foil hat the world can make for you.