OnePlus CEO talks about how the in-display FP reader led to the removal of the jack

02 October 2018
Pete Lau also addressed wireless charging, waterproofing and pricing. 

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"Does the in-display fingerprint reader really take up so much room that the 3.5mm headphone jack had to be dropped? That’s not the case with the Oppo R17 (non-Pro) and even the OnePlus 5T prototype pictured above. So, we don’t buy this explanation."

Well said. OnePlus is pulling an Apple move; get rid of accessories to get you to buy them separately so they have a higher profit margin. And I won't fall for it. I refuse to buy a phone without a headphone jack.

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    • AnonD-784123
    • 5Fx
    • 02 Oct 2018

    here is what makes me ponder.... I am sure Samsung will make a phone with a in-screen finger print scanner, and keep the headphone jack, which will inevitably make this decision pointless #watchNsee

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      • Kai Sosceles
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      • 02 Oct 2018

      "...he believes that once you try Screen Unlock for yourself, you’ll forget your grievances about the jack."

      They're not even tit-for-tat features though. Like, if they took away the ability to charge your phone with a cable, but allowed you to charge wirelessly instead--that's an analogy. But taking away one thing to put a completely unrelated and unasked for thing? Nah. Put the fingerprint sensor on the back. Needing to shift a finger to the front of the phone while holding it makes it unstable in the hand (it's 1 less finger holding the phone). When the reader is on the back, it's still stable. Do these people even use phones?

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        • Anonymous
        • m8@
        • 02 Oct 2018

        I really wanted a 6t but these dumb excuses are just retarded. The company wants to just make higher profits on bluetooth headphones which theyll upsell. Basically, if i buy the 6t i have to spend another 40-50$ for the headphones as i use the 3.5mm jack everyday for 5-6 hours.

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          • Anonymous
          • StU
          • 02 Oct 2018

          Regardless of whether the justification has any basis, the real issue is that this phone is missing a useful feature, the headphone jack, and the in-display fingerprint scanner will be less secure and slower than a conventional fingerprint scanner.

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            • Moj
            • a33
            • 02 Oct 2018

            TOTAL and utterly idiotic BS!
            If others can do so which happens to be OP's sister company they can do so for sure!
            But let me tell you the truth: they want to be more apple like and say we are different from other OEMs!

              lie

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                • Xcv
                • 0w7
                • 02 Oct 2018

                Whackcar, 02 Oct 2018The Vivo NEX S has a 4000 mah battery along with under-disp... moreExactly. All three are BBK brands.

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                  • saurabhaj1
                  • 7k7
                  • 02 Oct 2018

                  Kingslayer, 02 Oct 2018It doesn't matter because more people will accept wireless ... moreYou might be living in desert.
                  Australia i think.

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                    • AnonD-797904
                    • UD{
                    • 02 Oct 2018

                    It's a lame excuse because other Chinese folks are able to retain the audio jack with the in-display fingerprint reader installed.

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                      • AnkG
                      • PEW
                      • 02 Oct 2018

                      "But he believes that once you try Screen Unlock for yourself, you’ll forget your grievances about the jack".
                      So you can just keep unlocking your phone and forget about the expensive IEMs that you have?? Mr Lau, if you are going to come up with some excuse, try harder and make it more believable instead of making yourself sound stupid.

                        Kingslayer, 02 Oct 2018It doesn't matter because more people will accept wireless ... moreDo you realise using bluetooth headphones is going to kill YOUR health faster?
                        Or are you more concerned about your phone's battery's health that your own??

                          Anonymous, 02 Oct 2018The oneplus will have a 600 mha larger battery, that also t... moreThe Vivo NEX S has a 4000 mah battery along with under-display fingerprint sensor & a headphone jack. Vivo also happens to be a sister-company to Oppo & OnePlus, so there's no way OnePlus couldn't have managed to perfect the OP6T!

                            nik.007, 02 Oct 2018Like seriously? He seriously said that? Vivo Nex has an in... moreAnd this reasoning...is exactly why I find this explanation bull

                              Their justifications are unfounded and absurd. There are other phones out there that have an In display fingerprint sensor along with a 3.5mm jack. The upcoming Mate 20/Pro will also have those two along with wireless charging and IP68 certification.

                              Also, most OnePlus users would choose a 3.5mm jack over a under-display fingerprint sensor anyway, so even if they were not capable of doing so (which they are), they could've went with the better choice.

                              Heck, they should've added wireless charging instead of that under-display fingerprint sensor. Would've been far more useful. The new type of fingerprint reader has no benefits over traditional sensors, aside from maybe appearing "cooler".

                              They keep raising the price on OnePlus phones every year, yet they claim they didn't add the water-resistance to keep costs down. It's another baseless justification.

                              OnePlus has lost cause. That's it.

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                                • Anonymous
                                • ps3
                                • 02 Oct 2018

                                73RR4N, 02 Oct 2018Yeah so meizu 16 can make the phone as thin as 7.3mm, inclu... moreThe oneplus will have a 600 mha larger battery, that also takes up space

                                  Man screw this company.

                                    Like seriously? He seriously said that?
                                    Vivo Nex has an in display scanner and a jack AND a better STB ratio!!! It's their sister company (of sorts) ffs!
                                    These brands can say anything to your faces via tv/computer/mobile screens, and they won't respond even if you question them. Too much for a company that still dares to call themself "customer-centric".
                                    They are not only copying Apple in their devices, but also in their attitude.
                                    It would have been better if he didn't provide any explanation at all.

                                      73RR4N, 02 Oct 2018Yeah so meizu 16 can make the phone as thin as 7.3mm, inclu... moreYes he is basically admitting they are incompetent. Not the best sales pitch...

                                        He's lying through his teeth.

                                        The only reason is that they want to cut the cost of designing and they already gave up on a headphone jack in the Oppo R17 which is basically the blueprint for the 6T.

                                        They could have made the phone 2mm thicker and that would allow them to incorporate a bigger battery, a headphone jack and an in-display FPR.