Weekly poll: are screen holes better than teardrop notches?

25 November 2018
The selfie camera has been causing smartphone designers headaches as it obstructs their quest of slimming bezels down to nothing.

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  • 27 Nov 2018

Anonymous, 27 Nov 2018You measure this wrongly. We do not hold screen in our hand... moreyou don't have understood. I am not taking about bezeled phones vs bezelless phones. I am talking about the screen itself. In fact there are two phones that can be compared: Nubia X Vs Redmi Note 6 Pro, both have 6.26 inches and 19:9 aspect ratio and are bezelles, but the later have a notch. so Nubia X has more display area. Gsmarena are incorrectly indicating that the two have the same area, that's incorrect, the notch reduce inevitably the screen area.

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    • PxA
    • 27 Nov 2018

    just put a slim bezel where the camera and speaker-earpiece resides and that's it! there's nothing wrong with slim bezels!

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      • Anonymous
      • 6jr
      • 27 Nov 2018

      Anonymous, 26 Nov 2018And, given a screen diagonal length and an aspect ratio, th... moreYou measure this wrongly. We do not hold screen in our hands. We hold phones.

      A notched phone has more screen at the same device size than a bezeled phone. So for the same device size you 6.4 inches w Notch. Or 6.2intch w bezels. Which is silly

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        • Anonymous
        • 6jr
        • 27 Nov 2018

        Rdmkr, 26 Nov 2018adding a few millimeters of bezel to make space for useful ... moreBut you already do that with the teardrop design.

        You want bezel that does nothing which is silly.

        Most people with thinking brains think that having the sides usable is better than not.

        You want even them to be bezels for no reason at all. Samsung did that. Samsung sold poorly. Every years worse than the last. Thankfully she seems to be learning from her mistakes.

        Fanboys didn't.

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          • Anonymous
          • LCr
          • 26 Nov 2018

          Vegetaholic, 26 Nov 2018Lets be honest, notches looks dumb and covers huge portion ... moreAnd, given a screen diagonal length and an aspect ratio, the expected area of the display is in fact cropped. For example, a notchless 6.4 inches with 19:9 aspect ratio has more display area than a notched one with the same diagonal screen size and aspect ratio. You have be robbed.

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            • Anonymous
            • LCr
            • 26 Nov 2018

            bot!, 26 Nov 2018why is it so hard to have 1 corner completely square and pu... moreExactly, a perfect cuboid body with display with rounded corners, Put the camera and sensors in the gaps between display and body corners.

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              • nBR
              • 26 Nov 2018

              adding a few millimeters of bezel to make space for useful parts without compromising: best space spent on the entire phone. I was on board with the whole bezel shrinkage thing in the days of the LG G2, but these days I don't understand at all why everyone is so obsessed with reducing phone size by a few millimeters and willing to accept compromises for it.

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                • 9F5
                • 26 Nov 2018

                why is it so hard to have 1 corner completely square and put the the camera in this corner?

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                  • Anonymous
                  • LCr
                  • 26 Nov 2018

                  mdcclxv, 26 Nov 2018Double display, no selfie camera!Furthermore, main camera is always the best camera.

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                    • n2x
                    • 26 Nov 2018

                    "Where should the selfie camera go?" To the junkyard, lol.

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                      • n2x
                      • 26 Nov 2018

                      Double display, no selfie camera!

                        Anonymous, 26 Nov 2018slider phones and double display are better proposals.Of course, small batteries, 200g+, moving parts, what's not to love about a slider design? Ditch the selfie altogether at least for 1-2 models. Huawei has dozens of models, I'm sure one selfie camera-less one wouldn't be that much bother.

                          A smart Shooter, 26 Nov 2018Then how you share your selfie on your IG or Facebook? Fron... moreIG what? Face...who? What are you talking about?
                          Anyway, you can use the better back camera for a selfie if you really need it, it just takes a few tries.

                            Next tech should be like foldable screen over the notch, not the foldable phone with a notch. But I got to say hole on the side is better than some gargantuan notch in the middle, you will just have to cut more of those round corners you are used to(with software bezel).
                            Its no awesome tech like under screen fingerprint, just messing with users, as its so simple even entry level phones got such feature. Noth worthy a flagship and those prices.
                            Thats why people go pika pika with their comments, but they soon may go poco poco...

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                              • Anonymous
                              • LCr
                              • 26 Nov 2018

                              slider phones and double display are better proposals.

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                                • Anonymous
                                • LCr
                                • 26 Nov 2018

                                That cyclops concept is the worst.

                                  Anonymous, 26 Nov 2018Sony is long dead anyway, it's like 4-5 years behind on design.You better comment Samsung don't making a hole on screen for front camera, it is dead pixel alike, no need bother Sony because that hole is a bad design but has been marketing and advertising as a great solution and great gimmick. Some of the people will still enjoy those tiny bezel than a annoying black hole.

                                    Simon, 26 Nov 2018I wish there was no selfie camera and front was all display... moreThen how you share your selfie on your IG or Facebook? Front camera also use for video chatting it help some wife manage a well-control to her husband when she want to know where is her husband doing. Some beauty or handsome guy also use the front camera as a alternative mirror.

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • BVt
                                      • 26 Nov 2018

                                      You should add a slider option like Mi Mix 3.

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                                        • 26 Nov 2018

                                        Simon, 26 Nov 2018I wish there was no selfie camera and front was all display... moreI barely take selfies either. But the front cam is critical for video chat. Even non-narcissistic people need the front cam for that.