German court says Apple infringed on Qualcomm patents, issues sales ban

21 December 2018
Apple is appealing but in the meantime the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 are off the shelves.

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Same happened in China, all countries should do this to teach them a lesson...

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    • Anonymous
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    • 15 Feb 2019

    Anonymous, 02 Jan 2019Probably because the lone modem or component has no use on ... moreThe infringed patent is a method for envelope tracking; that's exactly what the Qorvo chip does - envelope tracking (n.b. _differently_ than Qualcomm). Using the Qorvo chip as intended was deemed non-infringing by both United States International Trade Commission and the United States District Court for the Southern District of California; how could anyone have predicted that would be different in other markets? http://www.fosspatents.com/2019/02/us-court-ruling-shows-qualcomm-is.html

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      • Hemant shah
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      • 14 Feb 2019

      Xs and xs max not good phone

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        • Anonymous
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        • 09 Jan 2019

        Thank you Apple for $1000+ smartphones, thank you for the notch, thank you for sealed batteries, thank you for the removal of the headphone jack. This is your legacy, thank you!

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          • 02 Jan 2019

          Anonymous, 28 Dec 2018"In Germany, the judge ruled that phones with a chip from A... moreProbably because the lone modem or component has no use on it's own, it's the final complete product that is packaged and sold by Apple as a full phone that is still using components that are infringing on the patent and so to ban any sale of the individual component they would need to target the phones as well.

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            • Anonymous
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            • 28 Dec 2018

            "In Germany, the judge ruled that phones with a chip from Apple supplier Qorvo violate one of Qualcomm’s patents around so-called envelope tracking" - Reuters

            I don't understand why Qualcomm is suing Apple and not Qorvo, and why the German court would issue a ban on the company using the 3rd party component instead of the 3rd party that made and sold it.

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              • Anonymous
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              • 28 Dec 2018

              Phenomk90, 22 Dec 2018Ironically apple is one of the first few companies to start... moreYou have a choice whether or not to buy Apple's phones. To build network compatible phone though, Apple has no choice but to license Qualcomm patents.

              Qualcomm charging different amounts depending on the price of the device it's used in is idiotic; why should they get a bigger cut because the manufacturer used a larger, higher quality screen, better and costlier camera module, larger battery, more expensive materials, etc.? It is discriminatory, predatory, and a clear violation of the FRAND terms it agreed to when it submitted the patents for inclusion in the standard.

                Anonymous, 24 Dec 2018As true as that may be , the only way to really solve the i... moreTrue, though lets face it. No country that has a shit ton is going to do that

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                  • 24 Dec 2018

                  Walter C. Dornez, 22 Dec 2018We have them, but we aren't willing to use them. That's the... moreAs true as that may be , the only way to really solve the issue is to remove them all.. as in no country’s are allowed them , if found guilty, country faces massive Penaltys.
                  Yes you could say well if they build one in secret then what would have have to use to fight back.. so max of 5 each. Rest must be dissembled that way if the other country’s has more and build them in secret , you’re still not defenceless , plus then Allie support and so on.

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                    • 24 Dec 2018

                    AnonD-454049, 23 Dec 2018"We aren't willing to use them" lol you sure about that? Tr... moreYou don't like Donald? Colluuuusiooooon????

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                      • 24 Dec 2018

                      Goblin, 23 Dec 2018Neither Qualcomm nor Apple is German company so it makes no... moreIt makes no sense European countries has laws? Back to school!

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                        • 23 Dec 2018

                        Walter C. Dornez, 23 Dec 2018He would need to get congressional approval, and most of th... moreOhh I see.

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                          • 23 Dec 2018

                          Neither Qualcomm nor Apple is German company so it makes no sense to the ordinary people about the quarrel between 2 American (registered) firms which make their products in China and maybe designed in US, for sure if then designed in US, by Asians. Shame to the German courts to waste the taxpayers’ money for such foreigners’ disputes.

                            AnonD-454049, 23 Dec 2018"We aren't willing to use them" lol you sure about that? Tr... moreHe would need to get congressional approval, and most of them aren't nental

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                              • 23 Dec 2018

                              Walter C. Dornez, 22 Dec 2018We have them, but we aren't willing to use them. That's the... more"We aren't willing to use them" lol you sure about that? Trump isn't exactly a mentally stable person.

                                AnonD-454049, 22 Dec 2018lol that's an excellent joke. The us has a problem with co... moreWe have them, but we aren't willing to use them. That's the difference. Some other countries are a bit less....inclined to hold back with nuclear warfare

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                                  • 22 Dec 2018

                                  AnonD-454049, 21 Dec 2018Agreed, if you know you aren't going to win the lawsuit why... moreQC has give them plenty of chances not just on this occasion...but like it is known there is bad blood here already, so it was probably in Qualcomm's best interests to not settle it out on their own...

                                    Ironically apple is one of the first few companies to start the overcharging practice on customers for their products and services and when they themselves are the customer of qualcomm when they get the same treatment they started to complain about it. And even went as far as to the court in order to keep the larger portion of the overcharging profit to themselves. Like we are going to believe apple will do us a favor by reducing their prices even if they win all those lawsuits around the world. Instead Tim Cook will only get richer. Nothing else.

                                      AnonD-454049, 22 Dec 2018Learn how to spell, it's kindergarten not kindergardenYou really felt hit wise boy hahaha :-D
                                      I love when people help each other... Thx.
                                      You really should educate yourself as a teacher when you grow up, im sure you will be good a good one.

                                      I wish you a merry Christmas and good recovery (y)

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                                        • 22 Dec 2018

                                        Anonymous, 22 Dec 2018No nuclear will be used by any country, once started, not a... moreTrue

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