Huawei ban - winners and losers

20 May 2019
This affects more than just Huawei - consumers, Android, Google, even competitors will have to deal with the fallout from this.

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  • 20 May 2019

This is a bit more complex. Whether you agree with Trump or not, US security agencies see a threat.

The phone thing is just what is visible to the consumers, but a much smaller threat. That part is merely a pressure point.

The real worry is the 5G infrastructure, because Huawei has been a big player in that. There have been security problems with their 5G equipment, but the real concern is what is hidden inside the backbone equipment. Being potentially able to scoop up massive amounts of information, or essentially shut down mobile communications is definitely NOT out of the question for an untrustworthy source that is tightly bound to the Chinese government.

    THE-TRUTH-REVEALER, 20 May 2019Uh, no...only loser is Huawei...I have written a detailed c... moreYou forgot to explain why it is only like that in the US, and not in Europe and Asia. As I said, it's only a loss for the US. Because the rest of the world is still able to use it normally. For now.

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      • Anonymous
      • 39h
      • 20 May 2019

      Lesson that the world needs to learn: do not make yourself reliant on U.S. products. They may take it away any time if there is political gain in it.

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        • Khan
        • XMt
        • 20 May 2019

        Atlas this is the end of Google era. Coz need is the mother of innovations. Now huawei and others makers win think of another competitive OS to survive in future.

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          • Anonymous
          • KfG
          • 20 May 2019

          Anonymous, 20 May 2019Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo and OnePlus were never accused of anythi... moreXiaomi, OP will be the next

            Let me eiiiiiiiiin, 20 May 2019Winner list is kinda strange, more like bullshit. We know X... moreWhat's wrong with the commenters? Their shallow process of thinking, which you clearly demonstrated

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              • cyber
              • S2D
              • 20 May 2019

              i hope other china brands take a hit too,and stop selling their crap in Europe

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                • Anonymous
                • sGx
                • 20 May 2019

                Anonymous, 20 May 2019Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo and OnePlus were never accused of anythi... moreFor now, Trump can accused them anytime of anything without any hard evidence.

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                  • toastyman
                  • FQx
                  • 20 May 2019

                  Can you still install app via apk?

                    Winner list is kinda strange, more like bullshit. We know Xiaomi etc will be their next target one way or the other.

                    What's wrong GSMArena nowdays XD

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                      • KMB877
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                      • 20 May 2019

                      Anonymous, 20 May 2019I don't use facebook, instagram and twiter and I live in Eu... moreI don't use facebook, instagram and twiter either, but I'm using WhatsApp, Viber, GPS vehicle tracking, banks, other professional apps.
                      So, I don't think is going to work.
                      BTW, the lack of apps killed Windows mobile OS.

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                        • Klej
                        • MWI
                        • 20 May 2019

                        THE-TRUTH-REVEALER, 20 May 2019There is a key thing that any OS except Android and iOS lac... moreYou'll be very surprised to find out that epic belongs to Chinese so whole lot of other well known companies.

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                          • KMB877
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                          • 20 May 2019

                          Anonymous, 20 May 2019The only loser here is the US and US consumers. This will h... moreLet me disagree, Huawei cellphones are popular enough all over Europe. And, Europe it's using Play Store too.
                          I can imagine not getting major Android updates (not a tragedy), but no way without having access to Play Store apps.

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                            • Jake
                            • 0WL
                            • 20 May 2019

                            Anonymous, 20 May 2019Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo and OnePlus were never accused of anythi... moreAnyway, they are making use of accusations without evidence in order to eliminate a competitor from the market. Something they could do with Xiaomi and others in the future if they are interested ... There will still be people looking for invisible chemical weapons in a certain country when in reality it was oil that interested ...

                            One of the movements that this could cause is that if Huawei decides to license its SoCs and modems to steal market from Qualcomm and Samsung, in addition to offering them at a better price locally in China, making Chinese manufacturers less dependent on foreign countries with good chinese SoCs, and break ties with non-Chinese companies that are not desirable and can give problems due to their governments.

                              Wouldn't it be an excellent move for Chinese government to demand Chinese OEMs to ditch android and develop their own OS? Chinese OEMs all together make more than half of the android market, and they all have more than enough experience molding android and creating skins so they all together should have more than enough resources for this. They just need to do a hell of a good work to guarantee its security, promoting it and offering tools for developers to work with it just as Google does.

                              Man I wish this would happen but the main problem is see here is that software earning the customers trust.

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                                • KMB877
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                                • 20 May 2019

                                Notsure, 20 May 2019This will only push Huawei to develop more chips and their ... moreDo you think I'll be able to install AutoCAD viewer for Huawei's new OS? What about my bank's app? Or Etrade's, Vanguard's, and so many others...

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                                  • sovij
                                  • XLE
                                  • 20 May 2019

                                  There are alternatives. 1.Aptoide for apps. 2.Mapswithme for maps. 3.Snaptube for YouTube as for android I dunno

                                    Zendroid, 20 May 2019Losers = America. Winners = Europe and Asia. Why? Becaus... moreUh, no...only loser is Huawei...I have written a detailed comment on it..

                                      Anonymous, 20 May 2019Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo and OnePlus were never accused of anythi... moreyou don't know anything about this situation you fool
                                      Because
                                      1. They're not big as huawei
                                      2. They don't use custom processors as Huawei does
                                      3. They don't provide networking equipment



                                        There is a key thing that any OS except Android and iOS lacks: and that is support from app developers.

                                        Huawei is in no position for global domination if it launches a phone without play store or with its own home-grown OS and its own app ecosystem, mark my words.

                                        Sure, Huawei in China has its own apps/OS, but given an alternative, I am sure most people outside China would prefer to use the more polished and clearly better alternative- Android, Google Apps and Google Play store.

                                        Even if studios who created games like PUBG and Fortnite (Epic) want to get behind the second OS, I am sure Huawei will have to bear significant costs of development of their whole new app. Creating an OS is very different from creating an Android skin. It has to be good from the core, speak well with the chipset and other hardware components, and not have major bugs. Android has had several iterations to refine itself, I am not sure how a new OS can match that level of fluidity, functionality, optimization and smoothness now.

                                        Lastly, we have the case study of Microsoft itself. If a huge software behemoth like that could not interest developers, I am not sure how Huawei, a hardware player, for the most part, could even possibly think of developing an OS and an app ecosystem that can compete with Android on a global scale.
                                        Same is the case with Amazon. The famous software developer of several cloud services is rather struggling for market share in the mobile/tablet space. Even when a FireHD tablet can be picked for $20-$30 with discounts, there really aren't many takers for the Fire OS. That is, in spite of it being a forked version of Android (so it would have been easier for developers to develop apps for fire os).
                                        Like it or hate it, 80%-85% of the smartphone market is dominated by Android for a reason. It is not a fluke. Several alternatives arose and turned to dust. iOS survived because of Steve Job's foresight, superb optimization, hardware-software coordination and a healthy headstart.
                                        Hence, it is in the best interest of Huawei to simply accept any sanctions of the US government and get back to selling devices compatible with the Google play store.

                                        It is sad, but it is what it is.