Huawei Mate 30 Pro will have two large 40MP sensors on the back
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- 31 Aug 2019
Shui8, 07 Aug 2019Yes RYYB makes it more interesting in terms of low lights i... moreP20 Pro camera looks even artificia, it looks like the comic especially you zoom in the image, although it has a very clean image, match up with the pop color even pull the image far away from reality.
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GalaxyStar, 14 Aug 2019So there's pixel binning and post processing and over softe... moreThats a very narrow minded view.
The s11 is going to have a bigger different sensor.
It depends on a companies ability with software.
Huawei actually has a number of advantages.
And it has more to do dual pixel and ois than just the sensor
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- 14 Aug 2019
Shui8, 07 Aug 2019U forgot to mention, Huawei 1.0 micron pixel size becomes 2... moreSo there's pixel binning and post processing and over softening and then over sharpening bla bla bla, honey Samsung makes 32mp 40mp sensors, 64mp sensors andd now "mind blowing" 108mp sensors why do you think they don't put those in flagships because the quality of them is nowhere near the quality of the 12mp Dual Pixel sensor samsung included from the s7 up to note 10. Best for low light, colors, auto-focus, video and a ton of other situations. try them in real world and come talk to me again
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Nick Tagataka, 08 Aug 2019How about comparing Mate 20 Pro's(because it has RGGB Bayer... moreI've already made my points and you are just ignoring them or getting defensive over it.
They are not the exact same as having pixels with that pitch. Maybe not very far away. And they still have a good strength vs a standard 1-1.4 micron pixel.
And a lot of gains in huawei are from the special sensor.
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- 09 Aug 2019
Nick Tagataka, 08 Aug 2019How about comparing Mate 20 Pro's(because it has RGGB Bayer... moreI give him some example already, still no answer from him, instead he still questioning you lol.
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Anonymous, 08 Aug 2019I'd like to see proof of that because non of the results se... moreHow about comparing Mate 20 Pro's(because it has RGGB Bayer which makes it more comparable to sensors from other phones) night shot from, let's say, Galaxy Note 9 or S10? Of course without using a dedicated night mode. I don't know what you mean by "non of the results seem to reflect that" but it's very much evident from the sample images that Mate 20 Pro's is more light sensitive than 1/2.55 inch sensor used on S10. It becomes obvious when you start pixel peeping.
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Nick Tagataka, 07 Aug 2019It kinda does though. While the actual light sensitivity of... moreI'd like to see proof of that because non of the results seem to reflect that. P30s gain is more from the new sensor tech.
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AnonD-706668, 07 Aug 2019i think not Then you clearly don't have a single clue what you are talking about.
Given the dance tech and variables a larger pixel will always work better.
It might not be in every conceivable situation or as noticeable everywhere. But it will perform better.
So if the iphone went 1.5microns on that exact same device and sensor down to 1.22 microns it would not lose any performance in hdr, exposure, noise, shutter speed, or low light???
And didnt all other devices move up from 1-1.2 micron sensors to 1.4 micron ones...even dropping from 16-24mp sensors down to 12mp ones just because of the performance gains of the larger pixels?????
But according to you.... oh...I think not......
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- 07 Aug 2019
fact, 07 Aug 2019can i see the real pixel through my naked eye?can i tell th... moreThe problem is they don't print it out.
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- 07 Aug 2019
Nick Tagataka, 07 Aug 2019I don't know what you have seen but it's extremely easy to ... moreSo if you want 7pm look or 6pm look just adjust the brightness, then if you want 11pm look simply turn night mode off😂
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Anonymous, 07 Aug 2019The ryyb sensor makes a much bigger leap. P20 was not leavi... moreYes RYYB makes it more interesting in terms of low lights imaging. While i do agree pure physical pixel size might be better, pixel-binning method still works nonetheless & got the advantage to utilize 40mp on certain situations at the same time.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12676/the-huawei-p20-p20-pro-review/8
Given on P20 Pro era, literally it has the best highlights control, better dynamic range than others, and can even handle high ISO photos in a good manner. Tap on the link above, go to 'extreme low light photography' section, compare the 10mp Auto (not Night mode) with others, yeah i can safely say it left others to dust.
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- 07 Aug 2019
Anonymous, 07 Aug 2019While they are clearly taking crap you should know that it ... moreIt kinda does though. While the actual light sensitivity of pixel binned 1µm pixels is technically ever so slightly lower than that of real 2µm pixels, they are very much comparable the difference is insignificant if not non-existent. The light information from 4 pixels is added together rather than averaged, after all.
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Is it you Pro, 07 Aug 2019Say whatever you can but a night should be a daylight looki... moreI don't know what you have seen but it's extremely easy to make the night scene look like night when using night mode - just tap the brightest part of the frame and the exposure goes lower.
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Anonymous, 07 Aug 2019The obviously flaw in your concept is that if the iphone ha... morei think not
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Shui8, 07 Aug 2019U forgot to mention, Huawei 1.0 micron pixel size becomes 2... moreyes you are right
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Shui8, 07 Aug 2019At the moment, at least its proven. Huawei 10mp resolution ... moreThe ryyb sensor makes a much bigger leap. P20 was not leaving all in the dust in low light.
I specifically said it has its strengths. Just not physically exactly the same as actually being 2um.
And because of that you fly off your rocker in defense starting to praise it and go on about scientific proof. Yeah proof it improves things. Not that it's literally exactly the same as having 2-2.3um....
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- 07 Aug 2019
Anonymous, 07 Aug 2019While they are clearly taking crap you should know that it ... moreAt the moment, at least its proven. Huawei 10mp resolution is one most if not the best in terms of low light photography, since P20 Pro they using it (minus Night Mode & RYYB sensor). Bigger pixel size, more lights come in, better low lights.
Also if u switch to 40mp, low lights became worst. So yeah the pixel binning method to double up the pixel size is indeed working. Its scientific proven by facts.
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AnonD-706668, 07 Aug 2019Forget your old concept. Now a days pixel size does not mat... moreFor the love of god it all matters. Just like people on specs vs optimizing. You need atleast a balance of both to be optimal.
Just giving small pixels a wide aperture doesn't magically make it amazing.
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AnonD-706668, 07 Aug 2019Forget your old concept. Now a days pixel size does not mat... moreThe obviously flaw in your concept is that if the iphone had 1.22 microns but the same tech it would take even worse photos.
And if the one plus had 1.5 microns instead but the same tech it would take better photos.
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Shui8, 07 Aug 2019U forgot to mention, Huawei 1.0 micron pixel size becomes 2... moreWhile they are clearly taking crap you should know that it doesn't literally perfectly work out that way. It has its strengths, but would not work exactly the same as physically having 2um pixels or 2.3um. Whatever it was