Huawei teases Kirin 990 chipset, coming September 6

23 August 2019
The Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro will likely be the first devices out with the new SoC.

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realitychecker, 25 Aug 2019I have these phones. I dont experience what you're talkin a... morecheck this article and u will see https://www.gsmarena.com/gaming_phones_throttling_performance-review-1957p3.php

and btw i own Mate 9 with Kirin 960 , and i have an idea about what i'm saying , cuz after few mins of playing , it turns into hell with Throttling , lagging and fps drops , Huawei applies heavy power saving and thermal control that they immediately low the performance of the mobile to low levels just to make it functioning , and that annoys damn too much , specially with an old soc like Kirin 960 , and it's there even in kirin 980 , check the article like i've said , regards

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    Nick Tagataka, 25 Aug 2019Yeah, Apple USED TO BE known for power hungry and throttle-... moreYou didnt say current. You said apple is great and samsung is bad. And even in current you would be negating the fact that its learning how to design a new core.
    Its not fault you dont know what you are talking about. And factually calling you out for such is not simply insulting or attacking you. Its being factual. Thats just your own defensive claims...

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      Anonymous, 25 Aug 2019Where did anyone say anything about the low end efficient a... moreI don't know what I am saying? Really? Are you dumb or something. Ok let me explain again. I compared high Kirin cores with Exynos high cores. Take a look at these Exynos 9825 specs.

      2 x 2.73 GHz Mongoose M4
      2 x 2.4 GHz Cortex-A75
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      4 x 1.9 GHz Cortex-A55

      Exynos have 2 custom Mongoose high cores and two Cortex A 75 cores. That is two years old tech from 2017. What a shame. Last years Kirin 980 had 4 Cortex A 76 cores. Also now Kirin 990 have the latest Cortex A77 high frequency cores. I will repeat again to you and anybody else: Exynos are the worst CPU's of them all. Apple A series, Qualcomm 800 series and Kirin 900 series are better in every aspect. Enjoy your day bye.

        Mi7even, 24 Aug 2019what's the use of a powerful soc when the mobile works it's... moreI have these phones. I dont experience what you're talkin about.
        I believe this one thottles..

        https://youtu.be/DjGE8AIADek

          Anonymous, 24 Aug 2019You clearly dont have a single clue what you are talking ab... moreYeah, Apple USED TO BE known for power hungry and throttle-prone CPU, Samsung is slowly MAKING A PROGRESS, but I'm talking about the CURRENT SITUATION of Samsung, Qualcomm, Apple and Huawei CPUs. What I said about Samsung right now messing up the CPU design and their chips performing worse than its rivals is true - obviously they will get better and better over time at designing their custom cores, but as for now they kinda suck.
          I haven't claimed anything about myself but if you want to keep insulting me like that then please go ahead. Though in that case simply I wouldn't be bothered to talk to you at all.

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            Anonymous, 25 Aug 2019No I am not comparing Kirin A55 efficient cores with Samsun... moreWhere did anyone say anything about the low end efficient and cores? Nobody.
            You're comparing Samsung mid tier cores the a75 to Huaweis upcoming high end cores.
            The a75 cores are the mid ones for Samsung. Their m4 cores are the high end ones that directly compare the a76 cores in others or upcoming a77.

            You don't even know what you are saying.

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              Anonymous, 25 Aug 2019Guys what might be the estimated geekbench scores for this ... moreHello let me answer you. I will not spoil anything but here's the catch. Around 20-25% more powerful then current Kirin 980.

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                Anonymous, 24 Aug 2019You just deliberately compared samsungs mid core to the hig... moreNo I am not comparing Kirin A55 efficient cores with Samsung Exynos. I am comparing high frequency Cortex A 75 which is a Samsung biggest mistake. Their engineers are lazy. Instead of using new tech they used two years old architecture in their SOC. Exynos is the worst chipset. Search in YouTube and you will find thousands of different problems from users all around the world. You will see in just 10 days that Kirin 990 with A77 and Mali G77 GPU will put your Exynos to shame. Have a nice day.:)

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                  • 25 Aug 2019

                  Guys what might be the estimated geekbench scores for this SOC???

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                    • 24 Aug 2019

                    realitychecker, 24 Aug 2019To be fair, this is a tech site not some politics, economic... moreTo be fair then that makes for points just as irrelevant to say in the first place.

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                      Gusta, 24 Aug 2019Snapdragon 865 is for next year phone (won't release soon).... moreJust one of their wrong moves was not using mali g77 cause they'd rather make their 10th anniversary devices some basic mini updates that are very expensive and uselessly hold of any available tech for the s11

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                        Anonymous, 24 Aug 2019Explain to me how is Kirin 990 dead on arrival? Kirin 990 h... moreYou just deliberately compared samsungs mid core to the high power core huawei will use as if it was directly comparable like that. Because you knew that was the only way you could manipulate the situation to fit your claim.
                        Not to mention you don't know for 100% fact that the kirin will have a77 and g77 cores.

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                          Nick Tagataka, 24 Aug 2019The difference between Apple and Samsung is that the former... moreYou clearly dont have a single clue what you are talking about.
                          First off. Apple clearly had issues with hungry cpu cores and throttling before getting more experince with bigger cores and the help of better die shrinks.

                          Second Samsung has made what has basically been the best cpus android has for most generations of the exynos. Its the last two years they are learning how to make large cpu cores. And how to balance power, efficiency, and thermal limits. They probably could have done a little better, but progress has been made.

                          Not to mention even though the 9820 is 8nm vs 7nm its physically way larger. Like around 40% larger. Anandtech actually said it was bigger than their 10nm SoC.
                          And if you compare the battery life of the s10plus with 4100mah and the note 10 plus with 4300mah...91 vs 107hrs....you can see that moving to 7nm made a huge difference. And it does much better in speed tests.

                          Why is it that these pages and pages everywhere are filled with self proclaimed elitists like you?

                            Anonymous, 24 Aug 2019Why don't you learn Chinese? Who ever said it wasn't commendable the fact he can speak English and Chinese? but when you are going to hold a global presentation of a new product and you chose to do it in English, you ought to have a good enough English.

                            The guy must be excellent in many areas but his English is not, so why not have someone that is hold the presentation while he sits back and relaxes?

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                              • 24 Aug 2019

                              I answer to Huawei CEO... "Will Huawei mate X (non foldable phone) get new models on the future?".

                                what's the use of a powerful soc when the mobile works it's best to throttle it after like 5 minutes of using? check mate 20 and p30's thermal throttling , only after few mins performance drops to 60% .. i started to hate kirins .

                                  ILoveSmartphones, 23 Aug 2019huawei is too slow 4k at 60fps samsung done that with s10..... moreActually... 4k60fps was inplemented since the Galaxy S9.

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                                    Wedll Kirin 990 will be like final boss in any videogame brute fast unstoppable.
                                    Like Lords of Cinch in dark souls series.

                                      Out of Control, 24 Aug 2019Kirin SoC's only feature basic stock ARM cores, even I coul... moreThe difference between Apple and Samsung is that the former is capable of making excellent custom core designs whereas the latter somehow messes up and makes it a lot worse than the stock ARM cores from the next year. A12 is still killing it with both CPU and GPU performance, but Exynos 9820's custom Mongoose CPU cores, which are based on Cortex-A75, are not only slower but also less efficient compared to the stock A76 and Qualcomm's Kyro 485 cores.

                                        Anonymous, 24 Aug 2019A chip YES, Mongoose NO.Technically, Apple's A chips are still licensed from ARM, but they've paid much higher prices compared to others, which allowed them to do more modifications to their designs as compared to what others could do with the same design layout.
                                        The impressive part here is that their modification to an older design is still better than others' modification to the newer and more powerful layouts.