Samsung Galaxy S11 to feature 9-to-1 Bayer sensor on its 108MP camera
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- 16 Dec 2019
YUKI93, 16 Dec 2019That means, this would be a Nona Bayer setup. But if Quad B... more2,4 ....
Pixel size is the side of the square.
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- 16 Dec 2019
Mikele, 16 Dec 2019Let the serious game begins on sensor with 9-to-1 Bayer tec... moreIt is exclusive for samsung mobile.
Other will only get the same xiaomi is using.
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- 16 Dec 2019
Anonymous, 16 Dec 2019Can anyone explain what kind of technology is this 9 to 1 B... moreQuadbayer does 4 to 1, where 2 have different exposure than the other 2.
This does 9 to 1. I suppose it uses 3 different exposure levels to increase dynamic range.
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- 16 Dec 2019
Love the Community, 16 Dec 2019Finally! Samsung created a Nonacell sensor before Sony does... moreAnd IMX686 has much more advanced techs.
While Samsung bets on binning only.
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AviG, 16 Dec 2019I predicted this and posted about it on the first post abou... moreThis sensor can do it.
The one used by xiaomi cannot.
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- 16 Dec 2019
Whackcar, 16 Dec 2019I remember seeing some comment on a previous article about ... moreSad that 12MP seems to be the most optimal amount of Megapixels and it'll be like this for quite some time. Sony and Samsung need to set the bar higher.
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- 16 Dec 2019
IpsDisplay, 16 Dec 2019Samsung was also first to 64 MP but the imx686 is far super... moreWhere did you get that information that SD865 is optimised for Quad Bayer CFA?
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- 16 Dec 2019
I remember seeing some comment on a previous article about 108MP sensor where someone suggested using 9 to 1 binning, and some ignorant people replied that it doesn't work like that.
Personally, I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I fully want to see what level of detail an image with 2.4um Pixel size retains. On the other hand, I don't like the idea of being forever stuck in this 12MP spiral.
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- 16 Dec 2019
YUKI93, 16 Dec 2019That means, this would be a Nona Bayer setup. But if Quad B... moreExactly as the name suggests: Quad Bayer quadruples the pixel size, whereas Nona Bayer nonuples (9 times) it.
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- 16 Dec 2019
Megapixels - often - are about nothing. Possibly there is a whole lot of nothing here. With decent glass lens elements and a 1/1.5 sensor with 10 megapizels sansung could gave constructed something wat more better then thus s11 geadget - 8 years ago. Ai etc not needed.
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- 16 Dec 2019
Let the serious game begins on sensor with 9-to-1 Bayer technology. I'm waiting for excite news across the OEMs possibly on Mid Rangers at $400 cut price!!
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- 16 Dec 2019
So those who were claiming Samsung will stick to 12MP resolution sensor were perfectly right, they WILL go for Nona Bayer this time around. This should bring number of improvements over Xiaomi's 108MP sensor, such as:
-Wider dynamic range in HDR readout mode in both still image and video
-Better low light performance due to larger effective pixel size in pixel binning mode
-Better tonality and color depth
I'm worried about its detail preservation though - Because the sensor's effective resolution remains unchanged from their old 12MP sensor, the detail level might not be on par with Mi Note 10 or Mate 30 Pro, unless they develop always-on super res image processing that cancels out the Bayer pattern like Google or Huawei managed to do. And Nona Bayer means a full resolution 108MP image can end up being utterly unusable.
I was hoping for a Quad Bayer 80MP sensor for the best balance between SNR/DR and resolution, but it seems like we will have to stick to 12MP image for another 6 months at least...
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- 16 Dec 2019
Anonymous, 16 Dec 2019Can anyone explain what kind of technology is this 9 to 1 B... moreIt is similar to how regular pixel binning work.
Currently phones use 4 to 1 pixel binning (quad-bayer) - (e.g. 48MP to 12MP, 64MP to 16MP, 108MP to 27MP).
But with 9 to 1 pixel binning (nona-bayer?), you will use more pixels to produce the same resolution image (e.g. 108MP to 12MP, 144MP to 16MP, etc...)
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- 16 Dec 2019
9 to 1, I am sure there will be someone that will still call tetracell or quadbayer.
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Love the Community, 16 Dec 2019Finally! Samsung created a Nonacell sensor before Sony does... moreSamsung was also first to 64 MP but the imx686 is far superior in performance..
Ill Give credit where it's dues However to Samsung
What worries me a bit the 865 ISP is optimised for quad Bayer ... So this nano Bayer might not be used To full potential
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- 16 Dec 2019
That means, this would be a Nona Bayer setup. But if Quad Bayer would increase the pixel size by 2x (from 0.8 micron pixel to 1.6), then how much the pixel size would increase with that Nona Bayer setup? If the maths remains the same, that means we could see a 4.5x increase (from 0.8 to 3.6).
Nevertheless, this is a rather exciting news. Definitely cannot wait for the official announcement, since Samsung is now using an entirely new primary wide camera since the single-camera S7.
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- 16 Dec 2019
Anonymous, 16 Dec 2019Can anyone explain what kind of technology is this 9 to 1 B... moreNine pixels equals one pixel. A photo is 12mp from a 108mp camera. Pretty awesome!
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- 16 Dec 2019
Can anyone explain what kind of technology is this 9 to 1 Bayer sensor, I am realy interested.
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- 16 Dec 2019
Hi, can someone explain the difference between a 9to1 binning, and actually having a 12mp sensor with huge(2.4) pixels. For me I would actually prefer the second one. I don't care that PR will spin 108MP as the next best thing after sliced bread. Cheers
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- 16 Dec 2019
PartTimePhoner, 16 Dec 2019They really love taking things down to 12Because 12mp is optimum for mobile cameras until 8k screens become standard.