Samsung Galaxy Z Flip's durability tested, display scratches like plastic

17 February 2020
The UTG display has a plastic protective layer on top just like the Galaxy Fold.

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AnonD-558092, 17 Feb 2020I thought of something. If Zach really tore through the ... moreYou are right. Seems like there is a super thin glass.
Samsung's announcement about "Solid glass. Foldabale display" made a little bit mess. Foldable screens are still super fragile and just developing technology.
For now it is just expensive toy which is not for everyone, not only because of price.

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    AnonD-558092, 17 Feb 2020I thought of something. If Zach really tore through the ... moreYou want logical thinking? Surrounding glass with plastic to make it flexible can't be called glass anymore. The surface is not glass and they didn't disclose it properly. They throw words like "Ultra Thin Glass" around and expect people to buy into this crap.

    There is no defending deceptive marketing. Samsung is slowly turning into a cult aswell.

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      • Anonymous
      • tSu
      • 17 Feb 2020

      Flip will go into history as aka Flop.

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        • 17 Feb 2020

        I thought of something.

        If Zach really tore through the "glass", the display was right underneath. It would require amazing care to not damage the underlying, ultra thin and fragile AMOLED display, which in the video he clearly doesn't (and it's not criticism). If the display was damaged, it would have been immediately too.

        But what do I know. I'm surely biased for trying to use logic beyond "that's what my eyes saw so it must be true"

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          • 17 Feb 2020

          Anonymous, 17 Feb 2020Duh.. The glass is behind the plastic.. They just scratched... moreDid you even watch the video? He pierced the screen like if it was nothing and killed some pixels. There is no glass behind it. The screen is composed by a mix of a soft polymer and just a little tad of glass and it's very soft, in order to survive all the bending.

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            Nick Tagataka, 17 Feb 2020Jerry's test truly made me wonder what is exactly the point... moreMaybe to not destroy the display by peeling it off I think. Or make it harder to actually damage the underlying display.

              Mapantz, 17 Feb 2020Apple said their camera lenses were made from Sapphire, whe... moreI'm not aware of that encounter but from your words alone that does not falsify that claim. It's still a correct statement.

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                • Anonymous
                • S2T
                • 17 Feb 2020

                So the display is technically not glass. There may be glass under neath the plastic layer you touch, but that is irrelevant since its not the part that gets worn.

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                  • 17 Feb 2020

                  Hilmawan, 17 Feb 2020A material must have certain physical properties and compos... moreOkay, Iron Man =P

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                    • Anonymous
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                    • 17 Feb 2020

                    Anonymous, 17 Feb 2020The protective part gets scratched, making your viewing are... moreThus for rhis phone you really need a third screenprotector, but I wonder what happends if you need to replace it and need to remove it. Will it pull the second layer also away :/

                      S Yu, 17 Feb 2020Why would you believe an interpretation of a phenomenon ove... moreA material must have certain physical properties and composition in order to be called glass.

                      If the composition is different then the name will also be different for example if you embedded glass fibresinto plastic resin it will be called Fibresglass/Galss reinforced plastic.

                      But Samsung just mentioned the glass without any explanation but Samsung only mentioned the glass either on the video or on their official site without giving a special note (there is a possibility that they have made changes after seeing the JRE video).

                      And just like JRE said in his video even if the Samsung's ultra thin glass has a little bit of glass it still cannot be called glass if it does not have physical properties of a glass.

                      I don't care if you want to be fooled by the marketing bulls#!t of your favorite brand, but don't try to defend them using $tup!d excuses.

                      If you are that $tup!d to believe in their deception maybe you should call me an iron man because in my body there is a little bit of iron and also maybe you can follow JRE's advice make a pile of mud then sprinkle it with chocolate chips then call it cookie and eat it

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                        Smallword, 17 Feb 2020Reading this thread really made me realize that a lot of y'... moreThe protective part gets scratched, making your viewing area look like crap. But at the same time you can't remove it because it's a... protective part lul.

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                          • mJs
                          • 17 Feb 2020

                          I still don't see the 1500$ worth in this phone. It's an experiment at best. Yes it is an appealling experiment, but still far from being ready for public. If I would be Samsung I'd put a 730g (or alike) in a 6" foldable with 6GB RAM and sell it for less than the S20 (regular). It might not have had "THE IMPACT" but early adopters wouldn't feel like testing the da*n thing but rather feel like they paid a reasonable price for a quite worthy experiment. Let's hope the Z Flip is adopted well and doens't ruin the rap of foldable devices. Id like to see a none scratching 6" mid-range variant for around 750$ - maybe by xiaomi.

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                            • Anonymous
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                            • 17 Feb 2020

                            Minuscule thin glass or not below the plastic, the fact is that "you can scratch it with your nails". That is all. You also can't peel the plastic protector as you'll damage the display. So it's part of the screen. And you can't protect that crap plastic with a tempered glass, only with another "special" one in a official SAT or service. LOL Imagine the amount of times that you could end going to the official service to replace that second special plastic screen protector and its cost $$$. :"D I'll be cheaper, easily and more practical to use covers to your nails. LOL

                            In addition, the plastic of the screen protectors usually catches a mixture of dirt and grease, and the coating does not last long. For that reason, hygiene and durability, tempered glass is always preferred as a screen protector.

                              satan666, 17 Feb 2020NOBODY can make glass folding...You can't make the impossib... moreTrue just like it was impossible to make planes, cars running under 10 seconds in a 100m race , have doors that open and closed by themselves

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                                • 17 Feb 2020

                                Anonymous, 17 Feb 2020Apple have never claimed iPhone to have sapphire glassNot for the screen, but for the camera covers, yes they did. And it is not sapphire.
                                https://i.imgur.com/1CcVYsB.png

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                                  Anonymous, 17 Feb 2020If you can scratch it with a fingernail then why would Sams... moreReading this thread really made me realize that a lot of y'all have comprehension issues. The flexible glass used on this phone is not like regular glass used on your phone. It's MUCH thinner (thinner than hair) thus not as durable. They used a protective layer on top to prevent it from breaking. Basically both layers work together. The plastic takes the scratches but cannot break and the glass can break but cannot scratch easily. They both protect the OLED matrix underneath so that the chances of really damaging the display are lower. Also it removes the unpleasant feeling of pressing a soft plastic display like on the Fold.
                                  TLDR : it IS glass, but fragile glass. There's a plastic screen protector on top that can scratch easily. It's still better than a full plastic display.

                                    spending so much on a phone that can easily be scratched with your fingernails, not worth it can’t even put a screen protector on it as well

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                                      • 17 Feb 2020

                                      Adding super thing glass uner plastic layer to get money if the phone is droped, is outstanding move. I have even better sugestion to make glass PCB to make sure you will need to replace whole phone if droped.

                                        Shui8, 17 Feb 2020So its a thin layer of glass (maybe composite) protected by... moreJerry's test truly made me wonder what is exactly the point of having this "glass" layer beneath the polymer film. As he demonstrated in his video, the "glass" does not seem to shatter or show spider web when the pressure has been applied using sharp objects, but rather gets punctured and lets them go through + damage diodes underneath like it doesn't exist. Does this new material actually contribute to the durability of the display or is it just another marketing gimmick? Only Samsung knows the truth, but as yet I haven't been able to confirm its effectiveness. Nonetheless I'm eager to see more objective tests done by professionals.