Weekly poll: the Huawei P40 phones are so good, but can you love them with no GMS on board?

29 March 2020
Huawei has already replaced much of the Google ecosystem and is offering camera hardware that is (currently) unrivaled. Is that enough?

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  • The Publisher
  • Ycy
  • 29 Mar 2020

If I could root the Pro+ and put custom software on it that would be a phenomenal phone.

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    • Jimbob
    • gAb
    • 29 Mar 2020

    When did the mate 30 even release? its like non existent.... i feel like this will be the same...... .....

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      • Anonymous
      • I@H
      • 29 Mar 2020

      ZHARF259, 29 Mar 2020For me, GMS is second part of the system. Emui 10.1 in Huaw... morehow do i watch netflix? app wont work using 3rd parry

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        • Anonymous
        • JMB
        • 29 Mar 2020

        Horrible front camara.
        Kirin suck vs sad 865
        Price is crazy

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          • Anonymous
          • uH}
          • 29 Mar 2020

          DexterHR, 29 Mar 2020And you base that opinion on what?The reviews on this website duh...

            Anonymous, 29 Mar 2020True. The performance of the Kirin 990 is too far behind th... moreI'm so sorry for my comment and calling you useless:( Sorry! I don't know why I say these things. Sometimes I just can't control myself. I'm so sorry. Thanks for keeping the debate sober and objective.

              ssassa, 29 Mar 2020This can be said by someone who doesn't know much about pho... moreGood for you then:) I know a lot about phones.

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                • Anonymous
                • 0@b
                • 29 Mar 2020

                Is it possible to install the apk files of the google apps on these phones?

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                  • Anonymous
                  • S2T
                  • 29 Mar 2020

                  Even with gms onboard its doa. The Kirin 990 is just too far behind the competition (Exynos excluded - which nobody wants to compare amy flagship to anyways).
                  Even last year Kirin 990 struggled to keep up with Sd 855 plus, even when Huawei openly stated, that they didnt include the latest cores, because Kirin 990 already was fast enough to compete with sd 865 !

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                    • Anonymous
                    • S2T
                    • 29 Mar 2020

                    Emeline Shaw, 29 Mar 2020I'm not even an Apple user so your fancy speech is useless ... moreTrue. The performance of the Kirin 990 is too far behind the competition to be flagship worthy. And what is a flagship without a true flagship Soc ?

                      Emeline Shaw, 29 Mar 2020I think there are not any alternatives right now but in 1-2... moreexactly that's what I'm talking about

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                        • ssassa
                        • mKb
                        • 29 Mar 2020

                        Emeline Shaw, 29 Mar 2020I'm not even an Apple user so your fancy speech is useless ... moreThis can be said by someone who doesn't know much about phones.
                        Huawei phones are great, I will never buy Apple phones in my life.

                          Anonymous, 29 Mar 2020They should lower the price to compensate the lack of gmsCompensate lack of spyware? You GOTTA be kidding.

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                            • ZHARF259
                            • tZ0
                            • 29 Mar 2020

                            For me, GMS is second part of the system. Emui 10.1 in Huawei P40 offer more features for better user daily driver for me.. apps can be download from other third party store. Now Huawei Apps Gallery will increase more apps in that store. One day, Apps Gallery can bit Play Store more apps.

                              sohail shafayat, 29 Mar 2020I'm talking about alternativesI think there are not any alternatives right now but in 1-2 years Huawei will have gotten all the apps available on Google Play store. So very soon we will have a triopoly which is very nice.

                              The Apple/Google duopoly deserves to get broken into pieces. Soon we will have an alternative.

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                                • Slayer
                                • sXj
                                • 29 Mar 2020

                                Dead on arrival without Google play services, unfortunately. Not Huawei's fault, I blame that on the douche bag President and his phony trade war!

                                Would have been a must with Google Services on board, don't care much for sideloads.

                                  iOS, 29 Mar 2020The current new flagship is not as the same as P30 Pro but ... moreI'm not even an Apple user so your fancy speech is useless too, just like you:)
                                  You can cry as much as you want - the P40 series are complete garbage. They are the worst phones you can buy. Actually they are not even flagships - they are midrangers and the sh*tty kirin 990 chip is a midrange too. Even SD55 is much more powerful than that garbage chip.

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                                    • AnonD-844967
                                    • iDf
                                    • 29 Mar 2020

                                    mooox, 29 Mar 2020Did anyone actually saw the photos from the Huawei P40 Pro?... morenot shitty camera shitty software.
                                    what we want is huawei hardware and apple software and Samsung video stabilisation.
                                    then it would be the ultimate camera phone.

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                                      • abwx
                                      • 4%j
                                      • 29 Mar 2020

                                      With the Amazon app store, it's got good maps (eg Osmand+), and good enough alternatives for everything else i need. I have had Amazon Fire tablets since the first Kindle Fire came out; I got a Fire Phone to play with when the were going for "fire sale" prices; to me, this is an Amazon phone done right, without problematic aspects of Amazon involvement. But ultimately, it is the camera features and that make this a first-choice, not just an appealing contender (from among phones with dual frequency, L1 + L5 etc dual/triple band, GNSS -- an absolute must-have).

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                                        • mooox
                                        • ucv
                                        • 29 Mar 2020

                                        Did anyone actually saw the photos from the Huawei P40 Pro? It's rubbish!
                                        Look at the details in this photo. Look for this round thing on the 10pound note (top left hand corner of the note next to the red round hat) in the following images:
                                        https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=4&idPhone1=10152&idPhone3=10040&idCamera2=300642
                                        and this:
                                        https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=4&idPhone1=10152&idPhone2=9846&idPhone3=9529

                                        Most importantly:
                                        https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=4&idPhone1=8599&idCamera2=300653&idCamera3=300615

                                        See how
                                        1) iPhone 11 Pro Max can (roughly) resolve the circles at 12MP
                                        2) Redmi K30 shows you what true resolution can do (and what it's supposed to look like)
                                        3) Samsung S20 Ultra 5G is just full of crap too.
                                        4) Oppo Find X2 Pro gives pretty good images
                                        5) the Huawei P40 Pro 50 MP image can't even match a 48MP image from the Redmi K20 and 19MP image from a Sony Xperia XZs

                                        Let's face it. It's a shitty camera.