Snapdragon 865+ unveiled with 10% CPU and GPU boost, Wi-Fi 6E support

07 July 2020
Two gaming phones have already picked the S865+ chipset - the Asus ROG Phone 3 and Lenovo Legion, both coming later this month.

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AnonD-754814, 10 Jul 2020Then your S10 is slower than chinese phone. No argue on t... moreWas going to upgrade to S20 but after the lackluster Exynos performance, decided against it.
If Exynos 992 with new cpu and gpu architecture is good, then Note 20 should be a nice upgrade over my S10/ROG 2 Combo.

    AnonD-754814, 10 Jul 2020Here goes again. Talking like illiterate people. No mat... moreHow is it fair game when the time taken by robotic arm is more than time taken by most users?

    Most phones like iPhone have different memory management compared to Android where apps are frozen without true multitasking.
    That extra second that you get with robotic arm can mess up lot of the test since the OS gets more time to handle those tasks.
    If it was at the same pace as an average human, I'll call it fair game.

    Besides, How are those tests that I linked to flawed?

    They disable animations to keep fair game.
    They also slow down video to see who wins.
    If difference is too small, they count it as a tie.
    They repeat these tests multiple times before recording on camera to make sure results are accurate.

    You think just because A13 scores 50% more in Single core benchmarks, it will perform 50% faster?

    Now in the face of evidence, you question their reliability?

    2-3 apps opened with that robotic arm is equivalent to a person opening 5 apps in the same time frame in real life. How can a test like that be considered reliable proof? 

    It's funny how Samsung S20 ultra which loses in speed tests on all other youtube channels wins on this site.
    Just think about it all Youtubers speed test result pointing to S20 ultra lagging behind Chinese flasghips while phone buff guy with debunked robotic arm scam putting S20U at the top?

      Vegetaholic, 10 Jul 2020Lol, go home dude, your stupid claims getting old :)Lol... Your so funny... Don't deceive yourself... Everyone here knows that the A13 has been left firmly in the past as an antique... :-)...

      Some people just can't handle that Android is way ahead... In everything... Including SoC's

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        • 10 Jul 2020

        Anonymous, 10 Jul 2020I don't have Snapdragon variant of s10. In my part of... moreThen your S10 is slower than chinese phone.
        No argue on that.
        You should also feel lucky not to have the Exynos 990 S20. That's a disaster.

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          • 10 Jul 2020

          AnonD-754814, 10 Jul 2020Well you're the one who is talking sh**t. I gave you... moreI don't have Snapdragon variant of s10.
          In my part of the world, they sell Exynos.
          Snapdragon only available in US and a few other countries.

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            • 10 Jul 2020

            iOS Sucks, 10 Jul 2020Phone buff speedtests are a proven joke. Lol That roboti... moreHere goes again.
            Talking like illiterate people.
            No matter what trouble the robotic arm cause, it's consistent for both device.
            So, the test is fair.
            Your ignorant excuse isn't going to change that.

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              • 10 Jul 2020

              Anonymous, 10 Jul 2020I think YouTube is your friend In every speed test the S... moreWell you're the one who is talking sh**t.
              I gave you proof of two most appreciated speed test channel on youtube.
              What more do you want ? Provide the link too ?
              Here is one for you. And saying this in advance before you start talking rubb**sh. This PhoneBuff speed test is the best real life speed test out there. If you find a better one you're welcome to share.
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd7ZzYGTi0Y
              You claim to have an SD version S10.
              But do you know it was also one of the fastest SD 855 android device last year ?
              Anyway, I've no interest in talking to a ghost.
              Bye

                MagicMonkeyBoy, 08 Jul 2020Absolute Monster! 865 + :-) And the A13 has a long time ... moreLol, go home dude, your stupid claims getting old :)

                  AnonD-754814, 10 Jul 2020Those stupid tests don't count. Head to 'spee... morePhone buff speedtests are a proven joke.

                  Lol That robotic arm which shakes after every touch on the screen is slower than my grandma who twitches her hand while holding onto something.
                  Most people have faster hands and navigate through the UI much smoothly compared to that garbage robotic mechanism.

                  2-3 apps opened with that robotic arm is equivalent to a person opening 5 apps in the same time frame in real life. How can a test like that be considered reliable proof?

                  It's funny how Samsung S20 ultra which loses in speed tests on all other youtube channels wins on this site. Plus, there are very few phones compared in speed tests on that channel. Total fail!

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                    • 10 Jul 2020

                    AnonD-754814, 10 Jul 2020Your cheap word trick isn't going to work on me. I kn... moreI think YouTube is your friend

                    In every speed test the S20 ultra lags behind find X2 pro, OP8 pro, Xperia 1 II, Mi 10 Pro.

                    When asked for proof, all you submit is some phone buff link pitting S20 ultra vs iPhone 11 pro Max.
                    Where are the links for S20 ultra the so called fastest Android beating the other flagships in speed tests?

                    You also think Chinese manufacturers are cheating on benchmarks without any proof.
                    Even the Redmi k30 pro gives score of 592k consistently after repeated benchmarks compared to Xiaomi's own mi 10 Pro which has dedicated cooling yet throttles badly.
                    Those phones are simply better optimized.

                    The upcoming ROG 3 gives score of 642k coz of overclocked chip and 16gb RAM.
                    You do realize that Antutu isn't just about cpu benchmarks, it judges overall performance including read write speeds, RAM, GPU, AI, etc.
                    Most of these Chinese flasghips have ufs 3.1, more RAM, which does add to the overall SCORE.

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                      • 10 Jul 2020

                      Anonymous, 10 Jul 2020You can't wrap your head around it coz you are stuck i... moreYour cheap word trick isn't going to work on me.
                      I know you type of people who like to shout rather than being logical and provide some logical proof.
                      I always say 1 thing to those cheap people.
                      Have a nice day !

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                        • 10 Jul 2020

                        AnonD-754814, 10 Jul 2020In which speed test the SD version S20 ultra lose ? It... moreS20 is Fastest Android phone out THERE? HAHA.
                        I see you bought the S20, now you can't swallow the fact that that others are better.
                        I got an s10, so don't think I hate Samsung or anything.
                        You have to give credit where it's due and not drag nationality of the companies into the argument.

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                          • 10 Jul 2020

                          AnonD-754814, 10 Jul 2020I wouldn't be so sure. No matter how good the build ... moreYou can't wrap your head around it coz you are stuck in the mud.
                          You have a hard time swallowing facts that small Chinese manufacturers are outperforming your beloved Samsung flagships in benchmarks and real-world tests.

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                            • 10 Jul 2020

                            Anonymous, 10 Jul 2020You are reading disabled aren't you? Why are you givin... moreIn which speed test the SD version S20 ultra lose ?
                            It's currently the fastest android phone out there(at least second).

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                              • 10 Jul 2020

                              MrPhong, 10 Jul 2020No one trusts a low-rep Youtuber like him. https://www.n... moreWe all trust Gary over MrPoong, LilllPhone, some Samsung hating tr*ll who keeps changing names.
                              Besides NotebookCheck writes poorly researched articles.
                              Their recent article on fast charging blatantly blamed Oppo for battery degradation based on some tweet by Anandtech guy who was already debunked to be fake news.

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                                • 10 Jul 2020

                                AnonD-731363, 10 Jul 2020Well thats possible then i wonder why a phone cant use CPU ... moreOh bro !
                                Do you know the size of a Laptop CPU ?

                                Even with those high speed cooling fan the Laptop CPU usually runs around 80 degrees if you put 60% load on it.

                                Also ARM's technology is much better than the conventional technology.
                                According to my research if you take similar type of 2 SoC theoretically, one based on ARM and other the pc cpu tech. ARM will be both energy efficient and faster(may be double).

                                As gaming smartphone hasn't been popular yet. When it does(if it does) SoC manufacturers will make high performance version of their regular flagship SoC.

                                For example the standard SD875 will come with 1*X1+3*A78+4*A55 configuration.
                                And my theoretical performance version might come with 1*X1+5*A78+2*A55 configuration.

                                The problem is SoC maker make SoC for regular phones, not gaming phones. They don't provide too much power which will produce heat that regular smartphone can't handle.
                                This is why I'm with those people who thinks buying a gaming phone has more drawback than it's advantages.

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                                  • 10 Jul 2020

                                  Mediatek sux, 09 Jul 2020https://youtu.be/mQtbeDnpdZM There you go, a13 is only bad... moreYou are reading disabled aren't you? Why are you giving link to S20 ultra vs iPhone 11?
                                  S20 ultra got beat by all Chinese flagships in speed tests.
                                  It's the worst in speed tests.

                                  Why don't you give me link where iPhone 11 outperforms the Poco F2 pro in speed tests?

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                                    • 10 Jul 2020

                                    AnonD-754814, 10 Jul 2020Yeah.. I'm saying the same. Qualcomm introduce the P... moreWell thats possible then i wonder why a phone cant use CPU from gaming laptop.
                                    Lenovo as a top company in PC and phone market should and try to do that.

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                                      • 10 Jul 2020

                                      MrPhong, 10 Jul 2020Just check Tom's Hardware, which has provided very rel... moreWhat is your point of this comment to me ?

                                      Why are you giving RTX2070 example ?
                                      Wasn't I the first to mention this yesterday ?

                                      Also WTH do you need to waste 500$ on an i9 CPU ?
                                      The i5 9600k is more than enough.

                                      You clearly lack sufficient knowledge on this side.
                                      You're just arguing like a cheap person without having proper knowledge on the subject.

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                                        • 10 Jul 2020

                                        iOS Sucks, 10 Jul 2020Pubg is way more optimised for iOS compared to Android. Eve... moreStill talking SH**T, huh ?
                                        Keep talking about your flawed real world test and ignore the proper real world Phonebuff speed test video that I shared.

                                        Speed Test G is a very good way to measure performance. I don't see your Chinese brands to do any good this year. They just post good benchmark score but lag behind in true test.
                                        The Chin** ese are cheater, not the iPhone.