Qualcomm tries to persuade the US government to let it sell chips to Huawei
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- 10 Aug 2020
AnonD-923722, 10 Aug 2020I told you. Qualcomm is only superior to Kirin in GPU and C... moreI was disappointed that the Kirin 990 was using last gen architecture for the CPU and GPU, it makes it look outdated but hey, not like the average consumer will notice. I don't see how AI in mobile chipsets have any meaningful impact in real day usage unless someone can tell me what's it used for. Integrated 5G modem saves space but doesn't necessarily mean better, Mediatek and Exynos 880 and 980 also use integrated 5G modem. I don't see how ISP has anything to do with using RYYB sensor considering it's exclusive to Huawei. RYYB is only useful during night as it captures more light which is why it doesn't require night mode, heck it gets worse if you use night mode. It's slightly more battery efficient due to it being manufactured by TSMC's 7nm FINFET+ EUV which no one not even Apple uses so they've definitely got the upper hand in that.
My only gripe about Kirin is their strangely bad support for video codecs. They started being able to encode 4K since Kirin 960 (flagships) and 820 (midrangers) and no hardware encoding for VP9 and HEVC 10 bit. Software encoding resulted in dropped frames for higher resolutions although thereotically it should be able to handle it. I tested this on Kirin 970 and 810. It could be that the fact it's American, I dunno.
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- 10 Aug 2020
AnonD-923722, 10 Aug 2020I told you. Qualcomm is only superior to Kirin in GPU and C... moreI saw a comparison in YouTube made by a professional Russian tech I think it’s even a heckler I’m not sure! the comparison between mate 30 pro vs S20 ultra (Exynos990), IPhone 11 Pro Max and Oppo find x 2 snapdragon 865 testing high intensive game, but not PUBG or COD forget the game name for 1 hour of playing and the only phone can keeps 60fps after 50 minutes is Huawei mate 30 pro that comes with Kirin 990 even iPhone 11 Pro Max can’t and it drops frame to 50fps!.
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- 10 Aug 2020
dimensity on the rise
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- 10 Aug 2020
AnonD-783442, 10 Aug 2020wait for the exynos 1000 next year.Ditto of my previous comment, and well, no one guarantee that it will be really better than the Snapdragons which could stay on top on many (if not all) aspects, also the 865+ and 875 are coming, so...
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- 10 Aug 2020
AnonD-923722, 10 Aug 2020I told you. Qualcomm is only superior to Kirin in GPU and C... moreI am not the kind of guy who follow Benchmarks only, I actually often said to those why talk about the Mediatek 1000 which is supposedly more power than X or Y Qualcomm chip on raw power than there are tons of chip based softwares including AI in which the Snapdragon is better.
Also I always heard that Snapdragon had better AI than Kirin, for the power efficiency, I don't know but with integrated 5G chipset indeed it is logical that the Kirin are better.
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- 10 Aug 2020
AnonD-909757, 10 Aug 2020That's exactly why we shouldn't rely on the US fo... moreso you find it okay that huawei are 99% owned by a union which is basically the chinese government
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- 10 Aug 2020
Whackcar, 10 Aug 2020If Huawei starts using Snapdragon chips on their flagships,... moreTheir prices are already too high.
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- 10 Aug 2020
For those who say that Kirin chips are security issue but now here is Qualcomm.
https://www.gizchina.com/2020/08/09/qualcomm-snapdragon-chips-have-serious-security-issues/
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- Aierlan
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- 10 Aug 2020
LG Superfan, 10 Aug 2020Can Huawei use Mediatek? Because Mediatek uses US technolog... moreApparently they have signed a deal with Mediatek to supply 120 million chips so it looks like they can
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- 10 Aug 2020
I'd prefer if Huawei used Mediatek instead of Snapdragon, they're cheaper and better for the time being. There's a reason why Redmi is using a lot of Mediatek.
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- 10 Aug 2020
TT, 10 Aug 2020If Qualcomm got approved then it just prove US government i... moreThe main purpose is slow down China's technological development. Knowledge is power and Huawei is the most technically advanced Chinese company in terms of R&D and 5g patents and they are the only Chinese company that currently designs their own chips which is why they are being focused on. The other Chinese brands are not much of a threat as they just purchase chips from Snapdragon or Mediatek or Samsung and have very little of their own technology.
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- 10 Aug 2020
Whackcar, 10 Aug 2020That's what I'm saying too. If they have to choos... moreYes I hope
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- 10 Aug 2020
AnonD-909757, 10 Aug 2020Yeah, but just because they are using "US technology&q... morewait for the exynos 1000 next year.
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- Anonymous
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- 10 Aug 2020
TSMC bow down to US pressure is pretty weird tbh considering that they made the chips using lithography machines from ASML, which is a Dutch company. And then Kirin chip is designed using ARM achitecture which is owned by a British company owned by Japanese. I don't know how US can force this sh*t things to happen tbh.
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- LG Superfan
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- 10 Aug 2020
AnonD-923722, 10 Aug 2020Snapdragon is better than Kirin in GPU, and CPU (only 5% if... moreNow that you mention ISP and 5G I agree with in built SoCs it would give Huawei more flexibility but I do think SD will be able handle RYYB sensor
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- 10 Aug 2020
On the other hand if they get to use Snapdragon it would be awesome though SD mid range SoC aren't as powerful as Kirin
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- LG Superfan
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- 10 Aug 2020
Can Huawei use Mediatek? Because Mediatek uses US technologies to produce its chips