[Updated] Epic Games sues Apple over anti-competitive behavior on the App Store

13 August 2020
EDIT: Epic Games sues Google following removal from the Play Store mere hours after Apple took action.

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Anonymous, 27 Aug 2020When will Fortnite comeback to the App Store When either epic games bend the knee to apple of apple are forced to change their app store policys if neither happens no more fortnite on apps store or Google playstore as they removed fortnight for the same reason.

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    • 27 Aug 2020

    When will Fortnite comeback to the App Store

      Yes, I hope that this happens, ios being restricted is the only thing pushing me away from ios itself.

      - EsportsXO .

        AnonD-896879, 15 Aug 2020Yes, I hope that this happen, ios being restricted is the o... moreShouldn't forget also there is no competition for devices with ios. W10 on other hand is getting everywhere, even on android from xcloud(xbox basically runs w10). The biggest flaw for me was and is, its hard to use it for everyday stuff like to copy paste some files / music, use some codecs etc. and versatility. Like you couldn't use even mouse with tablets, at least last time I remember it was like this. Same design, camera, mono audio rec for years....

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          • 15 Aug 2020

          Sammy fan, 14 Aug 2020That’s a great news... Finally this bad game is having a bi... moreLol it is epic games wich want google and apple to ban them, so they will not ban "pubg" because tencent or whatever the owner of pubg don't want that, and it didn't broke any rule

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            • 15 Aug 2020

            vrvly, 14 Aug 2020We all need Free Alternative Store app.Yes, I hope that this happen, ios being restricted is the only thing pushing me away from ios itself

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              • 15 Aug 2020

              Anonymous, 14 Aug 2020Think of it this way. The Appstore is a mall or a dept. sto... moreThat's better for us, yes you're right, but as I said that's better for us, they know that they gonna consequences and that they are going to loose but they did it not for them but for everyone, apps and games on both stores could be cheaper, more developpers will be encouraged to make mobile games, in-app purchase could be cheaper just like epic games showed us, they also give free games on their site, wich is good for us, I don't know why everyone don't like epic's behaviour, for me that's a "brave thing" I hope other companies follows, because that's better for us, epic know that this is not good for them because losing 30% is better than losing 100%

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                • Adul Al Salami Kebab
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                • 15 Aug 2020

                abigfanoftechs, 15 Aug 2020Apple is taking 30%, but why is the discount only 20%? A 3... moreMaybe because they were at a 10% loss(in terms of target profit) per sale trough the app store? So now they lose 0% since they have to give nothing to Apple/Google? That is just speculation but oh well. c: (20% = yay)

                  Apple is taking 30%, but why is the discount only 20%?
                  A 30% makes more sense.

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                    • 15 Aug 2020

                    X User, 15 Aug 2020Just a spoiled brat company acting like they are right. No ... moreLast time I checked Apple also took money for each time the apps are updated, and lets face it the approval time for stuff with apples store is way to slow. Every cross platform game with Android has problems for the Apple side ALWAYS!

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                      • Anonymous
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                      • 15 Aug 2020

                      MrDong, 14 Aug 2020Not really. Their PC and console market, including their ga... moreFYI, Borderlands isn't an Epic game, it's published by 2k Games and made by Gearbox. Epic just paid a boatload for it to be on Epic Store exclusively for the first 6 months, like they did for many other titles. Which is anti-competitive behavior. The company who has been regularly known for anti-competitive behavior is trying to sue another company for being anti-competitive. Nobody explained the absolute hilarity of that to them obviously.

                      Borderlands 3 was released on Steam exactly 6 months after it dropped on Epic store, and it released at half price on Steam, including the season pass. According to Data on Steamcharts, it had 93,597 simultaneous players on March 15th after its release on March 13th. Epic games doesn't report on it's player data so we can't make a direct comparison, but 93k concurrent players is a pretty good number - it's about the same daily peak as TF2.

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                        • 15 Aug 2020

                        Just a spoiled brat company acting like they are right. No one force them to accept Apple or Google's terms. Personally for me, not being able to play EPIC games has zero impact on me. Last I checked, people I know do not play EPIC games.

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                          • Anonymous
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                          • 14 Aug 2020

                          Think of it this way. The Appstore is a mall or a dept. store or a marketplace that Apple/Google built. So if you want to sell your goods there, you have to pay or rent a space. In this case, its 30% of your sale. If you don't want to pay rent, you're out. It's that simple.

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                            • 14 Aug 2020

                            Adul Al Salami Kebab, 14 Aug 2020Yeah next-gen MACs and iMACs will have shitty phone games o... moreYeah people will have no problem playing on android, sucks to be on iOS right now

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                              • 14 Aug 2020

                              Fortnite Lover, 14 Aug 2020No one plays fortnite anyway so taking it off the store wil... moreYeah next-gen MACs and iMACs will have shitty phone games only, Epic Games & Steam will find customers else where when they ditch Intel x86 in favor of their own ARM chips... Only option for Fortnite fans is to get a Android device, console(PS4, Switch Xbox ONE) or a PC!

                                We all need Free Alternative Store app.

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                                  • Fortnite Lover
                                  • 3DR
                                  • 14 Aug 2020

                                  No one plays fortnite anyway so taking it off the store will have no impact tbh

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                                    • 14 Aug 2020

                                    kammem2, 13 Aug 2020I am with Apple and They should respect Apple store policy.... moreThey already can. Netflix and Spotify already only allow you to manage your membership and billing through their website. The rule is that you cannot redirect users or advertise your website subscription plans from within the app. The users must locate the website on their own and find out if they have a cheaper subscription fee there. Epic broke the rules by advertising their own payment system within the app with an update. The did this deliberately and with the full intention of breaking the rules and forcing Apple into banning them.

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                                      • 14 Aug 2020

                                      I'm not buying into Epic's model of business with all those giveaways and now trying to sue Apple and possibly Google as well. They knew exactly what they were doing when they added those alternative payments methods in the game.

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                                        • 14 Aug 2020

                                        Fayth, 14 Aug 2020Epic will launch their own OS and only Epic Games on the StoreThey can easily partner with Huawei & Samsung to make some kinda deal to have their stuff pre-loaded Oneplus & LG seems to have abandoned them leaving Oppo, Vivo & maybe Realme in possible same boat? There is still Xiaomi and more out there.