[Updated] Epic Games sues Apple over anti-competitive behavior on the App Store

13 August 2020
EDIT: Epic Games sues Google following removal from the Play Store mere hours after Apple took action.

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  • 14 Aug 2020

kammem2, 13 Aug 2020I am with Apple and They should respect Apple store policy.... moreCard data is processed by the bank or card processor, not by developers so no, card data is not exposed the way u described...

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    • Ariur
    • gGM
    • 14 Aug 2020

    If (according to Epic's logic) Apple being the sole developer and distributor of iOS doesn't give them the right to decide how transactions withing their ecosystem are handled, then (by the same logic) Epic Games developing and distributing Fortnite should give them no right to decide how in-game transactions of V-bucks are handled. Every third party company should be allowed to make their own V-bucks and sell them inside Fortine, while paying nothing to Epic. Will they allow that? I don't think so. Epic Games is such a bunch of hypocrites...

      As most others in comments are misinterpreting, this does not mean apple has to specifically change its store policies if it loses, but has to allow alternate methods of software installation, such as ability to switch stores or to install apps by downloading from websites. The argument of 'apple's stores, apple's policies' would have more meaning if users could have another way of installing apps. As of now, it is more like 'apple's device, apple's policies', despite the fact that the user has already paid for the device and software. The court results will have great implications on software freedom, device ownership etc

        I wonder why Spotify didn't do this earlier...
        30% of Spotify's ios users subscription fee goes to Apple, the owner of iTunes
        It's like destroying the competition totally...

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          • GBh
          • 13 Aug 2020

          As much as I dislike Apple and their walled garden practices, this is just nonsense.

          Apple created iOS, and makes the devices for it, too. How can you complain about monopolistic practices when the owner itself controls everything and on the other hand, there's also Android out there as an option.

          This is just Epic trying to jump the shark and more likely than not, they will get banned on both stores.

            Anonymous, 13 Aug 2020Nope Hail Epic , Hail Xbox game streamingHail consumer choice, because you can bet Epic is not doing it the sake of its users.

              Sprry bro but this doesn't work. They help you make sales. You MAKE sales through THEIR store. Don't go fighting them over that

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                • mNT
                • 13 Aug 2020

                I am with Apple and They should respect Apple store policy..If they are going to win this case, then millions of other developers can simply take card details from the customers by offering "cheap payment" solution. You might say that millions of others do it on pC, but remember you have really small developers (one person, one team) who makes games just to earn few bucks and if they suddenly get all your card details. Do you think all of them would care about Apple store policy?:)

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                  • 3Kc
                  • 13 Aug 2020

                  Apple also charge 50 cents for super chats instead of the 5.00 on my google phone on my ipad it had 5.49 which i was not willing to pay , i do think its time for ios to get another store or the choice to have the store you want as apples apps and games are more expensive to buy and those small 50 cents do add up

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                    • 13 Aug 2020

                    [deleted post]Nope


                    Hail Epic , Hail Xbox game streaming

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                      • 13 Aug 2020

                      Typical Greedy Apple doing bad business. Monopoly it is

                        They actually tweeted it on their fornite Twitter account lol. I can't get over how Epic went from Gears of War, Unreal tournament and Bulletstorm to Fortnite... Where did it all go wrong, why the 180 degree turn

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                          • 13 Aug 2020

                          Bro you’re selling your product through a store then you have to abide by the store’s rules.

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                            • Nova
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                            • 13 Aug 2020

                            Why bother with the lawsuit it won't change anything

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                              • 0mM
                              • 13 Aug 2020

                              Apple and Google has become a monopoly and they do whatever they want. They not only charge app makers but also collect enormous amount of personal data from their users. I decided that this is not what I want and switched to /e/ OS fro m e foundation, which is basically ungoogled android made for privacy. I still run my favourite android apps, but Google cannot collect my data. I don't even have a Google account.