Weekly poll results: Sony hits the bullseye with the Xperia 5 II
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- 28 Sep 2020
AnonD-762416, 28 Sep 2020That is some serious brainwash Sony apologist BS right ther... moresony sold oled to samsung? weird...
if i hear sony and oled, i can only connect lg and japan display...
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- pan
- sxr
- 28 Sep 2020
Boggy-Stefy, 28 Sep 2020Well, Sony mobile division would have stopped producing 5 y... morethat wouldnt happen... sony is unapologetic... though i prefer an xperia over the others... i like nokia and lg too as i have some handsets... never had xiaomi and realme but they seem okay and their price is reachable by the masses... if your concern is just typical spec sheet and price ratio, those are good...
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- sxr
- 28 Sep 2020
[deleted post]join "sony xperia group philippines" in fb group if you are not yet a member... read the pinned post, a list of reputable sellers and marketplace is there... read before you post anything there as they are quite strict on postings...
save for 10-20 years and you will get good units...
here are some tips
if you buy from "fans" and not just typical xperia user, it will be at prestine condition... you can get z5 premium or xz premium for less than 10k php (about 200usd)...
you can also look for sellers who import used units from south korea and japan (read about them first before buying since they have different configurations and on some units you cannot disable shutter sound due to their privacy laws)
you can get xz3 for about 12k (bit under 300usd)...
save up and choose wisely... you do not need to buy every iteration just to prove yourself as a fan, on the contrary it defeats the purpose of buying a flagship xperia, or even any xperia...
if you check each iteration closely, it caters to different users... from z5 premium, i skipped the "soul searching" series of x series... almost got the xz premium but cant get enough with z5 premium yet at that moment... skipped the xz2 xz3 series since the design was not for me except for the compact (which i bought as used unit)... skipped the mark 1 since i prefer something with headphone jack and sharp corners like my z5 premium... if xperia 1 ii wasnt released, i guess i will settle for xz premium or wait...
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- Anonymous
- 7k3
- 28 Sep 2020
iOS Never Again, 28 Sep 2020Galaxy s20 with Snapdragon 865 already available at under 7... moreI would say Sony is best because they have more life than a Samsung phone .I bought a Samsung phone[ A71] its price is not too high but its lags a lot .but if we buy a Samsung phone which is overpriced it will stay for 4 or 5 years .so if we are buying Samsung phones we should buy overpriced phones .
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- 28 Sep 2020
Anonymous, 28 Sep 2020the price is expensive and understandable ... consider this... moreThat is some serious brainwash Sony apologist BS right there.
Sony sold their OLED division to Samsung. Samsung just understands sustainable and profitable business better than the 80's dinosaurs at Sony.
Sony is a dead brand in mobile and it's not Korea's fault, it's their own fault.
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- p%B
- 28 Sep 2020
Shanti Dope, 28 Sep 2020Well it was NOT intended to be a direct comparison to cars ... moreWell, Sony mobile division would have stopped producing 5 years ago or have the same fate as HTC or Nokia. But Sony is too big of a name and that was their luck let's say.
Their mobile division is on minus year after year. The same as LG one.
Is not a good thing, but it is what it is. I would definitely buy a LG or Sony phone, if it wil cost like a Realme or Xiaomi phone and have similar specs and features. Sadly, that is not happening, at least not in the last few years.
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- Anonymous
- PZs
- 28 Sep 2020
the price is expensive and understandable ... consider this ... if we dine in a restaurant, we pay the expensive price for service, chef and cooks, atmosphere, and the restaurant profit ... the restaurant has to pay bills for gas, electric, phone, internet, tax, employee, bonuses for employee, covering increases in supply and utilities ... the restaurant does not own the farm that produce ingredients for cooking
Samsung own the farm of the ingredients and has government support, BBK does not own the farm but it has government support and making an A to Z hyper industry, Sony only have the farm of audio and camera sensor while the display that was used to in-house products now Sony has to rely to Japan Display
unless Japan government do something like Samsung and BBK, Japan will only produce expensive products
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- Shanti Dope
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- 28 Sep 2020
Boggy-Stefy, 27 Sep 2020Your comparison with car manufacturers is illogical.
St... moreWell it was NOT intended to be a direct comparison to cars anyway. I only used them to prove my point because something about them can also be applied to phones. I could've also used other points of comparison like G-shock vs Rolex and still apply the same analogy to smartphones.
My point of comparison was simply for prices only, you took it too far off and got the wrong interpretation. That's all.
You know why they sell the most? Because they are very popular. Give the same amount of popularity to Sony phones and I can guarantee that they would sell just as much as every other popular brands do. There can't be any other way around it, especially considering that this Xperia 5 II is packing even more useful features than their corresponding competitor from Samsung and Apple.
Mid range to budget phones, I have to give them to the Chinese manufacturers, not gonna argue with that, but neither Samsung nor Apple is doing great in that category either way.
Also, there are many more things to consider on people's decision in purchasing their phones, one of which can be due to ecosystem preference. Maybe people already want to switch to Android, but the great integration of Apple devices is stopping them. Maybe not everyone knows about Sony phones and think they're only limited to Samsung and Apple for the high-end category. Factors like these affect people's buying decisions, but you shouldn't even have to give a cr*p about it, 'cause why are you so concerned about brands' sales? If it's just sales that would determine a company's fate, then Sony Xperia division should've already been totally closed and stopped operating 5 years ago.
You need to understand that:
"Some brands don't intend to sell as many as what the popular brands do, so comparing their sales is just worthless."
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- Shanti Dope
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- 28 Sep 2020
vrvly, 27 Sep 2020As for me, the way I use, I got to charge everyday, so it w... moreWow, really? Western spoiled kids at their most privileged state right now lol.
As for me, I just want my $1000 phone to last for years. What good is paying that much money if I wouldn't be able to keep the phone for a very long time? Heck, I could even keep my 3 year old budget phone running for me. Why? Because unlike you guys, I take very good care of my gadgets. My parents just taught me how to handle things with care because somebody else took their precious time and effort to make these wonderful products that are greatly helping me to make my life easier.
If you really think phones are disposable pieces of plastic that are not worth keeping for long, I wouldn't argue with that. But there's no need to convince me to think the same way as you do. I want to spend a lot of money on one thing that I can easily keep for years, and still be able to keep it even after I'm about to replace it.
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- Shanti Dope
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- 28 Sep 2020
Anonymous, 27 Sep 2020Take away some of the gimmick, a slight bigger battery with... moreBy gimmick you mean the headphone jack, right?
And no. Sony wouldn't adjust to your likings and be like everyone else. Sorry to burst your bubbles but they only want to be unique, and because of that, "smart" smartphone users like me will be happy to know that there are options like these for us ☺️
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- Anonymous
- tZ0
- 28 Sep 2020
iOS Never Again, 28 Sep 2020Galaxy s20 with Snapdragon 865 already available at under 7... moreso if i want buy galaxy s20 with Snapdragon 865 at under 700$ i have to go to certain places.
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- Anonymous
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- 28 Sep 2020
AnonD-955101, 28 Sep 2020Really? Oooh, that is the reason why my street is full of ... moreSure, take the super successful and hyper extreme as example, THAT will get you to places.. If you want to take cars as example, there's many hand built super cars out there, it does make it automatically reliable or instant hit. Just guarantees limited production and expansive than normal. The example you've given Ferrari and Bugatti has a history, track record and pedigrees to them. That takes time to built. Lamborghini on the other hand... Well, poor example. As for watches, you got me on Rolex. As I'm one of the believes that they are actually cheaper than it worth. However, if you are truly a watch enthusiast, you should know again, there's many uncommon hand watch crafters out there. Expensive than normal, sure, reliability? Questionable and a bit depends on luck. And if you are non biased, as watch enthusiast I can tell you, Seiko, except the ultra expensive premiums these mass production watch is almost unbeatable at nearly every segment (mechanical watches) they do. And I'll sure to be glad include Omegas out there. But that goes a bit deep and subjective. But no, just because majority of the Italians like to hand craft they stuff, it doesn't mean it comes out good.
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- glennbuck
- AJt
- 28 Sep 2020
6.1 inch display in a 6.5 inch display body is very poor need to get rid of the bezzle and be up to date not 2018!
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- 28 Sep 2020
Anonymous, 27 Sep 2020Handmade does not automatically = goodReally?
Oooh, that is the reason why my street is full of lambos and bugatti's falling apart.
Wft, my rolex just broke down in to pieces 😂😂😂😂
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- 7kY
- 28 Sep 2020
Vegetaholic, 27 Sep 2020Lol, it might happen, as I doubt sales will be high with th... moreGalaxy s20 with Snapdragon 865 already available at under 700$ in certain places.
Nobody wants to buy Sony especially at those prices as they have retreated from most of the markets.
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- 27 Sep 2020
Shanti Dope, 27 Sep 2020What? I thought I've said they're already selling... moreYour comparison with car manufacturers is illogical.
Still in the expensive price range Samsung and Apple sell the most.
In the entry level market, Chinese companies rule (quantity wise).
Sony is at the same level (numbers sold) to Nokia, Motorola or LG. Insignificant.
So why do people not buy Sony phones? Simple, there are better offerings out there.
I was in the market for a new Android phone (200-400EUR). I actually wanted to buy a Sony phone. Looked at the Sony Xperia L4. Then I looked what phones I could get with that money in my country: phones like Realme 6, Xiaomi Poco X3 or Redmi Note 9s. Even a Samsung M21 or Huawei P30 lite, looked more appealing to me. I mean, what would make me buy the Sony Xperia L4, other than the brand name? Nothing.
The same situation I've encounter when comparing Sony Xperia 10 II with the other phones in the same price range: phones like Xiaomi Mi Note 10 Lite, Samsung M51, Realme X50, Google Pixel 3a.
And that is why Sony doesn't sell so many phones, especially in the entry level and mid-range areas. They do not come with anything interesting except brand name. They think if people like their consoles, headphones or cameras (which by the way are very good), they automatically will like their phones too. Wrong.
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- Hqc
- 27 Sep 2020
wallpapers,icon packs and still no system wide font choice.not quite customization bullseye.
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- Anonymous
- TRF
- 27 Sep 2020
Shanti Dope, 27 Sep 2020Lend me some cash and I'll get some. Come on, you don... moreIf you feel it is worth it, you would save up enough to buy it. I have seen people from different classes of society using an iPhone. Excuses...