Flashback: weird phones from unexpected brands (Marshall, Puma, Facebook)

11 October 2020
Your phone has a 3.5 mm jack? The Marshall London had two! Meanwhile, the Swiss were trying to incorporate watch parts into phones.

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  • 26 Dec 2020

Muttley, 21 Dec 2020I had a Motorola V100 !!! https://www.gsmarena.com/motorol... moreMotorola V100 is dead - RIP.

    I had a Motorola V100 !!!
    https://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_v_box(v100)-224.php

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      • 17 Oct 2020

      AnonD-909757, 16 Oct 2020Yeah you completely failed to understand that sentence. ... moreMan good try but not.
      I am in work so i havent much time to respond.
      I know its good when people do have choices but just a little example Jabra S60 pro sport the best wireless earplugs money can buy. No matter what you compare to that everything is worse.
      Asi said i am running out of time for now.
      Some things are better wired siome wireles in close future wired things ceases to exist because rubber is not really good for environment same as plastic and many else.
      That huge plastic island of size of texas is real not fake.
      Slovly but continuosly we going more and more into wiireles era and burden things like cables, plastic, rubber, diesel cars and many else going into the history books.
      Same way like vynyl plates were beaten by cassetes, cassettes were dicharged for CDs, then DVDs came and now blueray discs rule which soon or later when internet will be completely free for anyone even he blueray discs will go to vain for a cloud storage and channels such as netflix and many else where you pay few bucks and have a complete movie library at home.
      Same way wired is close to the extinct and wireless will dominate on the market.
      Evolution is unstopable. And new researchs, technologies etc are inevitable and always will prevail over old ones when they become great enough.

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        • 16 Oct 2020

        AnonD-731363, 16 Oct 2020No man i am polished shiny and well smiling and proud entit... moreYeah you completely failed to understand that sentence.

        Oh, yeah, sure, find me a single bluetooth headphone better than a Sennheiser HD 660 S which is just one randomly picked high quality recent wired headphone, not even THE best or anything.

        And that's beside the point, YOU CAN STILL FRICKING USE WIRELESS HEADPHONES ON A SMARTPHONE THAT HAVE A 3.5MM JACK PORT !
        And regardless how good you THINK Wireless is, and even if it was better than wired, it is still NOT a justification to remove the 3.5mm Jack that many peoples still USE, WANT, PREFER or even straight up NEED.
        Jack who allow for MUCH MORE than audio, from the cheapest audio earphones to cheap Paypal card readers and other special things where the wireless version is :
        1 TOTALLY UNSECURED as wireless is a big security risk.
        2 Is WAY MORE EXPENSIVE.
        That's one of the many reasons why the Jack IS to stay, and beside the stupidity of those who removed it ONLY for milking more money out of the customers, most are now putting it back as they realized that THE MAJORITY of peoples want it.
        Understand that ? THE MAJORITY want it, because they prefer it, use it, want it or need it.
        Considering you can have a phone with a 3.5mm Jack port and still NEVER ONCE plug any cable into it, this is NOT intrusive.

        Also, your arguments that wireless is better is total and utter non-senses, that's exactly why we prefer a good RJ-45 cable over any wireless connection.
        I never said that cables are ALWAYS better, because it isn't, and it would be stupid to say that, as stupid as saying that wireless is always better than cables.
        Look at the numbers :
        https://www.androidauthority.com/wired-headphones-after-bluetooth-poll-1153236/
        Over 70% of peoples prefer wired on this poll.
        It is a well known FACT that wireless isn't better than wired headphones, Bluetooth was NEVER intended for music, and even with modern standard allowing for music oriented protocoles, no where near :
        https://thenextweb.com/plugged/2019/01/02/10-reasons-im-still-not-switching-to-bluetooth-headphones/
        Soundguys have made an article called "5 reasons not to buy bluetooth headphones"
        Go ahead and read it.
        And this is written by peoples that Android Authority describe as :
        "The pros at SoundGuys have well over a decade of combined experience in the lab, in retail.. everywhere!"
        What do YOU know compared to them ?

        If there wasn't any wireless audio capabilities on smartphones and you wanted it to be a thing, I would be totally agreeing, everyone deserve to have the choice, and for that exact reason, I consider you as an egoistic egocentric without any justification to ask that YOUR favorite way become the only way by REMOVING what other already have and want despite its existence not changing ANYTHING for you.

        Also, there is already enough tech existing to make every cable in your house disappearing, does your monitor use wireless receiver ? Surely not, so buy one first, remove EVERY cables except electric ones (and I am really kind for that exception here) and THEN, comeback and say that wireless is always the best, until you have a single non-electric cable left in your house that isn't directly connected to a wireless transmitter/receiver, don't comeback and say that wireless is better, as you literally don't know what you are talking about.

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          • 16 Oct 2020

          AnonD-909757, 16 Oct 2020How can you be so dense ? If there were something denser th... moreNo man i am polished shiny and well smiling and proud entity of this man kind world which my creator along with me gave several billion years ago to evolve and have a capable life on it. But thats story for another go or coffee.

          Man nice try but no.
          Wireless mice for example razer basilisk ultimate is far better than any other wired cable mouse you can name.
          Same goes for earphones and earplugs.
          Companies like Senheiser, Bose, Sony, JBL and many more quality brands made so many outstanding wireless devices that they litterary prevailed over wired ones.

          Please do understand that in some cases cables are garbage and walking like xmas tree is more fun than a good thing.

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            • 16 Oct 2020

            AnonD-731363, 16 Oct 2020Man but wired are intrusion. In some rare cases its good ... moreHow can you be so dense ? If there were something denser than a black hole it would be you.

            You are NOT forced to use wire, phones already have Bluetooth, the real intrusion is to PREVENT those who WANT to use wired equipment to being able to natively use them.
            For many peoples having to deal with lesser quality of Bluetooth, disconnection, pairing, another thing to charge, inability to use expensive high quality equipment already owned as intended is the perfect definition of intrusive design.

            You don't want to use wires, fine, don't use it, but don't justify forcing to use Bluetooth and removing something that peoples DO use.

            YOU find wireless better, I and many other find wired to be the better option for many reasons.
            And this is not "my opinion", all I said here are facts.

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              • 16 Oct 2020

              Buaha, 14 Oct 2020You completely disregarded every single point I made agains... moreWireless will never be better - UNDERSTAND THAT - because the emitted radio waves are harmful for humans, plants and anything WITH LIFE around it...

              Man this is a complete lie. We eat many artifical food, print tons of garbage from printers including cars weapons and many else. Soon we make artifical completely everything and words came fro nature or it have natural origins will be kmown only in history books.

              This has been proven countless of times - plants are essentially trying to be as far away from a Wi-Fi signal as possible for example... (Good joke plants dont have legs and cannot move). Or did you saw a walking tree apart the Ents from Tolkien books and lords of rings saga???

              Plus, how come you had a umbilical cord ( when you were a baby ) and weren't born wirelessly then? Man human body is not artifical born. Thats something completely different. In nature there is no wireless technology all is nature made. (please dont mix apples and pears)

              Anyhow, this was my last 2 cents for you since I have to say thanks for confirming it's a waste of time replying to you as even others are saying truth that you're not willing to see, because apparently that coffee is too strong to be handled by you...😂
              Well i rather have my coffee than hearing more jokes from you like the one about baby.
              You are completely funny and i am thank you for your funyn like knowledge and engligtement. It was very usefull now i really know and understand why wireless is was and will be better and all major companies trying to get rid of cables anyway they can and i am glad for it.

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                • 16 Oct 2020

                AnonD-909757, 14 Oct 2020You mean like when Intel was the only relevant CPU maker an... moreMan but wired are intrusion.
                In some rare cases its good if we have more than one competitor but in case of phones there is no need for that. Motorola was great and still is great.
                Samsung UI is agrbage for example.
                Whole apple and IOS is nothing just a robebry on a customer and OS which doesnt cooperate with user.
                Sony is too expensive compared manufacturing price and given specs.
                LG like HTC once a great brand failed to impress like many else for example Siemens or Sonny Erricson etc.
                For cases they failed to impress and died noone asked them to ever arise. I understand the attempt of trying but they failed like many else will do.

                In case of wireless over the wored. Wireless will always prevail. Cables are useless in tis modern era and always gets in a way.
                There are plenty of reasons. And its inly good companies like Apple one plsu etc removed jack. Samsung did same and i dont know simple company which returned to this fail like technology which is as much intrusive as it can be.
                Thus to my honest opinion.

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                  • 14 Oct 2020

                  AnonD-909757, 14 Oct 2020You mean like when Intel was the only relevant CPU maker an... moreDon't waste your time on clowns, my previous comment was my last pro tip for him that he failed to acknowledge and same goes for your effort that he also disregarded - you can't move a stubborn rock can you...

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                    • 14 Oct 2020

                    AnonD-731363, 13 Oct 2020Man really. Jack is ancient obsollete technology develope... moreYou completely disregarded every single point I made against your phony claims

                    Wireless will never be better - UNDERSTAND THAT - because the emitted radio waves are harmful for humans, plants and anything WITH LIFE around it...

                    This has been proven countless of times - plants are essentially trying to be as far away from a Wi-Fi signal as possible for example...

                    Plus, how come you had a umbilical cord ( when you were a baby ) and weren't born wirelessly then?


                    Anyhow, this was my last 2 cents for you since I have to say thanks for confirming it's a waste of time replying to you as even others are saying truth that you're not willing to see, because apparently that coffee is too strong to be handled by you...😂

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                      • 14 Oct 2020

                      AnonD-731363, 13 Oct 2020Man nicely said and is fine if people have choces but somet... moreYou mean like when Intel was the only relevant CPU maker and CPU price got up and didn't evolved and all of the sudden once AMD comeback Intel made cheaper yet more powerful and quickly evolving CPU ?
                      Sure, we all know how "good" it is when a single brand own a whole market...

                      There are peoples who simply don't want to deal with another stupid battery powered thing that they need to recharge, I have a Corsair Void Pro who can be plugged in 3.5mm Jack, and there was a lot of times I would have done it but OnePlus were stupid enough to follow Apple with the Jack removal.

                      And "strangely" now that many third party wireless earphones/earbuds are available for cheaper and for better quality, most of the brands who removed the Jack are putting it back.
                      If you can't understand that there is NO REASONS to remove the Jack port except FORCING users into a lesser thing that many don't want, I pity you, but this isn't an excuse for preaching the removal of a non-intrusive feature many peoples use and rely on.

                      You want the punch hole, notch, front camera in general, curved display mandatory 5G or other intrusive (either by their visual, practical or cost impact) to be gone, ok, that's totally fair and there are justifications, but there are NONE for the Jack, and the Jack being "old" doesn't mean it is obsolete and to be to removed.
                      The concept of houses and cloths is one of the oldest, yet you are still living inside and wearing clothing, so don't start finding excuses about the Jack being old, there are way older things than that you use daily and would hate to not have.
                      Literally, no one prevent you from stopping the old way of eating and getting all your nutriments through perfusion, so why aren't you doing that ?
                      Who need a tactile display anymore now that you can do everything through assistants like Google, Alexa and other alternatives, tactile is the old way and voice control is the new way, but does it mean you stopped using your tactile ?
                      Did all you wrote was only through vocal command ?
                      I bet it isn't, so stop acting like a special snowflex and consider that because something feel old for you it shouldn't be available for anyone.

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                        • 13 Oct 2020

                        AnonD-909757, 13 Oct 2020"People like you stops evolving technology to the futu... moreMan nicely said and is fine if people have choces but sometimes is a worse thing.
                        For me for example in april 1973 Martin Cooper and his team devised first ever cell phone Motorola Dynatac.
                        Since then many phone brands came with many else devices.
                        I would love and like in this case if only motorola as a cell brand existed.
                        Like google wont allow 3rd OS among the google android and Apple IOS because as we both know Windows failed to impress.
                        But in case of sound hearing it should be either wireless or hearing it nice and loud.
                        Cables no.
                        Thanks but no.
                        I dont like them for many own reasons i cannot describe because it will take too much time and i am bored of speaking about something which makes me tired.

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                          • 13 Oct 2020

                          AnonD-731363, 13 Oct 2020My friend too much fuss and work for nothing. People like... more"People like you stops evolving technology to the future because people like you relly on the past."

                          Sure, so how do you explain that I literally made a fictional concept smartphone that is basically mostly made of future potentially faisable or early prototype techs :
                          https://imgur.com/gallery/ykYfaa6

                          Leave Tesla out of this, his free energy has nothing to do with this, it was FREE as not costing anything, and it is now proven to not be faisable.
                          What about peoples being FREE to use wired devices ?
                          What the hell could letting a 3.5mm Jack which allow those wanting to use it do to those preferring wireless ?
                          Except egoistic thinking of "I don't use wired stuff so I don't care about those who use, want or need it" what is the point of that ?
                          Giving choice between Jack and Wireless is indeed better than receiving attention to your anti-Jack attitude preventing those who want wired connection to use them without it being any nuisance for you to use wireless.

                          I am not old, I love modern technology, and again, many times, getting back to the ancient way is how we evolve, the first cars were electric for exemple, the Jack is still superior to wireless and have many practical advantages that wireless will never offer, on top of a better quality and more importantly it is important for peoples who have wired equipment AND do more than just audio.
                          If anything I am the first one to say we lack innovation and we keep on trying to improve the same tech while there are better alternatives, but this does NOT mean it is true for everything, some techs, including the Jack, are stuff you still want available.
                          Sure, good luck having a wireless stove, if anything, the real future that will happen before any "total wireless" thingy would be our entire house and most of the items in it being made out of nanobots allowing restructuration and omni-use and they will certainly not be wireless.
                          Also wireless is a threat for privacy, which is something extremely important and lack of it could cause progress toward higher technologies to never be achievable in the first place, because who need technological progress when you are in a totalitarian government, North Korea would approve.

                          Literally, you are advocating for removing something that many do use and want to use despite its presence changing absolutely NOTHING for those wanting to use wireless, you can just ignore the Jack, no one force you to use it, it doesn't do anything negative for you and is valuable for many others.
                          There is no excuses for advocating such thing as removing non-intrusive technology that is useful to many peoples.

                          Multiple aircrafts crashed because they had only electronic system and ditched the manual reversion which use physical cables to move control surfaces.
                          Also, there are wireless keyboard, mouses, but also monitor adapter, I am sure your computer is then completely wireless except for power right ?
                          Surely someone wanting so much wireless have invested into wireless monitor HDMI/Displayport T/R.
                          Also, your human design is hundreds of thousands of year old and work on millions of year old concepts like eyes, breathing, eating, remove those from your body if you don't want old things, I'll love to see you having a wireless vascular and nerve system.

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                            • 13 Oct 2020

                            AnonD-909757, 12 Oct 2020This is a deeply shit response... There are many exemple... moreMy friend too much fuss and work for nothing.
                            People like you stops evolving technology to the future because people like you relly on the past.
                            In past this worked very well but its gone.
                            Even the Nikola Tesla dream was to give people FREE (I am repeating again FREE Electricity) and many else because people deserve free because nature also giving a free.
                            We learned how to grab the wind, water,Soil and many else and use it to our own prosperity.
                            Same way we can ditch ancient jack technology to give people free way to listen to music, videos, stream audio etc.
                            Giving was always better than receiving.

                            Only old people who cant accept this new tred will envy the old techlonolies which in past were better but jack have nowhere to evolve where the wireless tech have many ways of use and soon or later will be used everywhere.
                            And every household mechanism, maschine or robot will be wireless.

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                              • 13 Oct 2020

                              Buaha, 13 Oct 2020" Man old ancient technologies like a jack would and s... moreMan really.
                              Jack is ancient obsollete technology developed back in 1867 year if i am exact.
                              Being vired like a Xmas tree is not my cup of coffee.
                              And even Nikola Tesla dream was to give electricity free to anyone.
                              Many else shared same dream but most else people did not just because greedy people and companies for money and power needs to shed and shred money from people skin no matter the way.

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                                • 13 Oct 2020

                                AnonD-731363, 12 Oct 2020Man old ancient technologies like a jack would and should b... more3.5 mm jack was removed for marketing reasons to force people to buy wireless headphones. They are not obsolete. Don't let them fool you

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                                  • 13 Oct 2020

                                  AnonD-909757, 12 Oct 2020This is a deeply shit response... There are many exemple... moreYeah, I agree. The phone jack is superior technology to Bluetooth. That's why it has survived for more than a hundred years, even through different technological applications. First developed for telephone system switchboards, it has been used for transistor radios, walkmans, audio equipment in studios, camcorders, on planes, for microphones, on computers, now on smartphones, and many many other types of devices.

                                  Any technology that can survive that long, through that many different applications, without anyone thinking it needed to be changed, had something going for it. The phone jack is simple, high quality, and cross compatible. Not just backwards compatible either, but also forwards compatible (i.e. a fifty year old stereo system can handle a new set of headphones).

                                  The only reason smartphones ditched the 3.5 mm jack, led by Apple, was to sell everyone new more expensive bluetooth headphones. Apple is notorious for this sort of scheme thoughout its whole history, long before it made phones. Many manufacturers, upon ditching the jack, claimed the jacks took up too much space on small and thin devices, only to release a phone without the jack and have tear downs show empty unused space insead the device. It's all just a scheme.

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                                    • 13 Oct 2020

                                    i had the vodafone blue 555.and for that was awesome

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                                      • 13 Oct 2020

                                      The Marshall London is the clear winner here and it would be marvelous if they'd make a 2nd revision or a new updated device with at least 2020 standard mid-tier specs.

                                      Though would rather prefer them going full on with flagship specs as that would really make a new contender in the smartphone league - something that would really shake up and make a stir to this still bland variety of current offerings out there.

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                                        • 13 Oct 2020

                                        AnonD-731363, 12 Oct 2020Man old ancient technologies like a jack would and should b... more" Man old ancient technologies like a jack would and should be removed because they are old creepy and obsolete anyway. "

                                        A really useful headphone jack is creepy? Are you feeling alright, coz I could say your ears are creepy and what will you say about that?

                                        " Wireless was the future it is and always will be. Those cables are good for nothing. "

                                        Wireless is the future? Cables are good for nothing?

                                        How come data-centers, servers and the whole internet network of computers are all networked via ethernet cables?

                                        And last but not least why are humans born with an umbilical cord ( cable ) then?

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