Apple iPhone 12 Pro and Pro Max unveiled with 5G, larger screens, improved cameras

13 October 2020
The iPhone 12 Pro mostly uses the same cam, except for a brighter lens. The Max has a larger sensor and a longer tele lens.

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  • 14 Oct 2020

mesand, 14 Oct 2020Am I the only Android fan who is thinking, why Apple can de... moreI also think the iphone 12 mini size is perfect and was considering it but cons kinda outweigh the pros. I was ready to potentially deal with iOS even though I have an ipad pro and just hate how you can't transfer freely files, how the low battery prompts just pop-up and freeze whatever you're doing (especially in multiplayer games) and tons of other stuff.

But no usb-c, still a huge notch with face unlock being completely useless in this pandemic, no high refresh rate and the EU pricing killed it for me. I'll wait to see reviews and the pricing on a contract, but right now I'm leaning more and more towards the xperia 5 II

    mesand, 14 Oct 2020Am I the only Android fan who is thinking, why Apple can de... moreIt has nothing android hasn't had for a year or more already. I will say however that those squared sides are hot as hell.

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      • 14 Oct 2020

      Boring design.

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        • JyX
        • 14 Oct 2020

        Why not keeping the specs the same for both pro's. What a bummer.

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          • 14 Oct 2020

          Am I the only Android fan who is thinking, why Apple can deliver the features I would like to see? Except for the ultimately closed OS, which is the main problem of this phone, but besides... It is awsome Imo.

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            • 14 Oct 2020

            Does the iPhone 12 series have magnets in the actual body of the phone or is the Magsafe feature possible only with Apple accessories?

            Checking coz one would need to be extra careful keeping the phone around credit cards if the phone has magnets in its body....

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              • 14 Oct 2020

              So an original lightning cable + charger cost like $40-50 depending on your location. A pair of earpods is 20 bucks too. And Apple usually sells circa 20 million new iphones per year.

              So they spend few minutes on how they are saving the world by not including any accessories while in reality that's 1.2 billion dollars worth of accessories per year. That's ridiculous

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                • 14 Oct 2020

                Anonymous, 14 Oct 2020 Point your phone to someone 4m away and take photo withou... moreIt is not very noticeable when the object is too far away. This is the case with every camera with a similar focal length / f-number ratio.

                Here's an example where Samsung's periscope camera produces a noticeable amount of blur without software https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/20/samsung-galaxy-s20-ultra/review/bokeh/gsmarena_012.jpg

                "There's another 'portrait' mode of sorts. That's simply using the photo mode at 4x zoom. The 103mm equivalent focal length is a close match for the 105mm lenses a lot of pros swear by for portraiture. On the Ultra, with proper spacing between subject and background, you can get some decently blurry backgrounds with perfect subject isolation - it's all optics and zero algorithms" and that's true https://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s20_ultra_5g-review-2074p8.php

                  Rocky, 13 Oct 2020Now android brands also follow apple,like every brand rele... moreThe problem is those companies lost notches 2-3 year ago Iphone still has their's :))).
                  And most comanies will still com3 with charging bricks because of fast charging . But i guess for that 5 years old 18 watt "fast charge" you don't need a brick indeed :)))

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                    • 14 Oct 2020

                    Anonymous, 13 Oct 2020That's wrong. The sensor has nothing to do with the bl... more
                    Point your phone to someone 4m away and take photo without using the portrait mode.There will be no blur around and behind the person.

                    The blur of portrait mode is 100% software on phones.
                    This is why is so poor quality.
                    With parts of the body cut by the blur.

                    Check the photo of the snail by the periscope. Zero blur
                    https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s20_ultra_5g-review-2074p6.php

                    Same for Sony 70mm. Zero blur without portrait mode.
                    https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_5_ii-review-2173p5.php



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                      • 13 Oct 2020

                      iOS Never Again, 13 Oct 20202 minute silence for people who though they were getting 5x... moreApple is so good at tricking people. 5x optical zoom 'range'... What a joke.

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                        • 13 Oct 2020

                        Im very disappointed with this ..I think apple is staying in 2016 and all others company's moving forward to the future. At the end the large sales of iphones are from the US users because you know it's being patriot. But in the world the history is different.

                          Anonymous, 13 Oct 2020Samsung can also record 4K@60 HDR and 8K@24. Apple has ch... moreOthers are doing 960fps super slow motion recording, 4k120, 8k@30fps as well.
                          That is the truth about the overhyped A14 being locked by software

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                            • 13 Oct 2020

                            Recycled design and omission of 120Hz, but won't stop people from buying it. Will still be the class leader of phones.

                              CCNN, 13 Oct 2020next year iphone 13 - no box, no instruction guide, u get p... moreAnd they automatically lock your phone via update by the end of every month unless you shell out for Apple One subscription. 😝

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                                • 13 Oct 2020

                                iOS Never Again, 13 Oct 20202 minute silence for people who though they were getting 5x... moreNah, you're wrong - it gets no charging lol

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                                  • 13 Oct 2020

                                  ArmChairCritique, 13 Oct 2020To be honest, we generally end up with a few charging cable... moreWhen Apple puts up a new wireless standard and call it Redtooth or something and make current BT headsets unusable with it.

                                  Apple.has nothing to fear bec people like you will be there to defend them.

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                                    • 13 Oct 2020

                                    Anonymous, 13 Oct 2020Small sensors cannot blur unless you do close ups. That... moreThat's wrong. The sensor has nothing to do with the blur. It is only caused by the lens. For a given field of view you need larger lenses for more blur. Taking a photo with a small sensor is physically exactly the same thing as using a software crop of a photo that was taken with a large sensor. When you combine a large lens with a small sensor, you will get the same background blur, actually the relative amount of blur will be even larger with the smaller sensor. Small sensors usually use lenses that have a smaller relationship of focal length and f number for a given field of view. That's why there is usually less background blur, though some smartphone periscope cameras have such a high relationship of focal length and f number that they can produce more blur (without software) than professional full frame f/4 ultra wide-angle lenses.

                                      2 minute silence for people who though they were getting 5x optical zoom.
                                      As predicted they get 2.5x zoom with 60hz display & 20W charging.
                                      Welcome to 2016 Apple!

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                                        • 13 Oct 2020

                                        JDK, 13 Oct 2020dolby vision is totally different from the pixel density of... moreWhat are you talking about? Being pseudo dolby vision certified doesn't mean that the screen supports the actual Dolby Vision that is rated as superior in the link you posted. For that the iphone needs a 12-bit screen (I'm not sure whether the new pro models are 10bit, but none of the previous models have had a 10-bit screen) and 4000+ nits of brightness. In fact Dolby specifically lowered the specs requirements for Dolby Vision certification to cater to Apple's marketing ploys and that's why it suddenly became software-based even though everyone knows that a specific chip is required. So right now every company can just pay Dolby a licensing fee and turn their already existing screens to Dolby Vision screens.

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