Apple to introduce the first ARM-powered Macs on November 17
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- 17 Oct 2020
This Apple product must not be hated. Why? Because this product try to kill duopoly between Microsoft and Intel. I hope it's works. Did you guys even tired with Microsoft Intel duopoly?
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- 17 Oct 2020
Android Authority, 17 Oct 2020Under emulation..Lol, lemme know when real world results co... moreWho needs a Braaaawd portfolio?
Apple has superior first party and 3rd party apps.
Even if Mac users are 8-10 percent of total laptop and Desktop markt, it's constantly being maintained throughout the decades.
Many professionals use Mac along with powerful Xeon Processors, A series is expected to replace Xeon processors.
It's not magic but Apple doubles Processor power every 3 years, Intel took 6 years to double the perfomance for desktop.
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- 17 Oct 2020
Anonymous, 17 Oct 2020When a 2 year old 5W A12z under emulation is faster than 45... moreUnder emulation..Lol, lemme know when real world results come out.
Are there even any games to take advantage of that Power? or a broad portfolio of applications as we se on Windows?
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- 17 Oct 2020
Apple can finally have its own native CPU after decades of using other companies' processors--Motorola and, later, Intel. Hope Apple can make the best of it.
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Anonymous, 17 Oct 2020Exactly, x86 is entirely US ip. No one wants that now. Th... moreabsolutely true
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- 17 Oct 2020
J, 17 Oct 2020This could be a game changer but not because of CPU instruc... moreWell said
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- 17 Oct 2020
This could be a game changer but not because of CPU instruction set.
The game changer here is an always online 5G laptop and being able to make and receive calls from the device. Seeing that ms keeps screwing this up on their surface line.
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Android Authority, 17 Oct 2020First of all, no 45W cpu from Intel or AMD is afraid of gar... moreWhen a 2 year old 5W A12z under emulation is faster than 45W Intel 😂😂😂
The Future is ARM+RISC-V my dear.
Until then keep coping.
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- 17 Oct 2020
Annas, 17 Oct 2020Its clearly you have no clue..
We already, some of us have... moreFirst of all, no 45W cpu from Intel or AMD is afraid of garbage A12z.
Secondly, Windows running in these ultraBooks provides thousand times more functionality compared to handicapped MacOS.
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- 17 Oct 2020
YouRace, 17 Oct 2020There is no next gen CISC , but there is ARM V9, MIPS, RISC... moreExactly, x86 is entirely US ip. No one wants that now. The rest of the world wants either ARM or RISC-V, which is not under US control, and preferably RISC-V because it is an open standard.
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- 17 Oct 2020
Chemist83, 17 Oct 2020Oh yeah, they are barely startingYes !
This year, in November will show how their macs will blow out of the water any Intel ultrabook, any 12" or 13 or even 14" laptops in terms of RAW cpu and igpu performance, in terms of HEAT (lets remember , under heavy load Intel chips runs between 88-100C, while the mac mini with A12Z runs in heavy load under 80C)....and lets not talk about battery life....like we all know heat is the batterys enemy
based on the A12z power use, IF apple just replaced the chip from the current macbook air with tha A12Z, that laptop will gain :
- over 35% better raw cpu performance and over 60% better gpu perfroamnce
- instead of 10-11 light usage battery life, you will get over 15hours
- instead of 3-4 heavy usage battery life, you will get over 8 hours under Rosetta2, and over 9-10 under nativ arm apps heavy usage
- a much colder device for our hands, the current Intel macbook air, or 13" Dell Xps under load the top keys are almost at 40-46C while on the MBA will be around 33C
-better facetime camera since the A silicon has performance camera cores
And again, thats ONLY if apple just replace the cpu
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- 17 Oct 2020
YouRace, 17 Oct 2020There is no next gen CISC , but there is ARM V9, MIPS, RISC... moreIt seems people dont know what you are talking about :)))
They still love and want another 30 years of x86, thank god not everyone is like them, and we are not stuck another 30 years under x86 architecture
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- 17 Oct 2020
Anonymous, 16 Oct 2020Seriously, what x86 uses RISC? All of them are CISC.
x86... moreThere is no next gen CISC , but there is ARM V9, MIPS, RISC-V etc.,
ARM is dropping 32 bit support in 2022 and RISC-V is modular ISA so it doesn't have historical baggage like 32 bit BC issues.
Europe has already started working in indigenous Hyperscale processors based on RISCV and so is entirety of China.
The world's fastest Supercomputer is a Japanese ARM based system.
After all who would want to be blocked by USA and it's embargo 😀😀.
So yeah the Dinosaur X86 is stuck with 32 bit support forever.
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YouRace, 17 Oct 2020Not only ARM but RISCV Too.
Apple will blow the socks of... moreExactly !
I still have some moths left from my 1 year with the dev kit mac mini....
but my god that A12Z under ROSETTA 2, so, under emulation is more powerful than any Intel ultrabooks that runs 5W 7W or 15W cpu
Not to mention the so called "iGpu"
And lets not forget that next year APple will bring the even more powerful silicon to run under bigger macs like the 27/32" imac, and for the 16" macbook pro...more room to breath. And also next year, based on the Big Sur arm code, apple will have at least 2 custom GPU
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Anonymous, 16 Oct 2020Seriously, what x86 uses RISC? All of them are CISC.
x86... moreBecause arm is the future...and big gaming companies are planing with at least 5 years ahead its future...and since there are already a lot of games on the app store that will run natively from day 1, the only games that remain will the the triple A
And what apple does with metal and sharing memory in their upcoming custom apple graphics...Jesus christ...the future is waaaaay better on arm...no more need that power to suck 300W from gpu only
I bet a lot of you in 2007 said iphone will have no future...like you are saying now that arm has no future...its clear you are not a developer
One build to support every OS, from iOs, to macOS, linux and win10 on arm...this is just beautiful
Microsoft is all about cloud services , since the new CEO...so , keep in mind that windows will slowly be dead, or not improved any more
So everyone will go for arm, has to, if they plan long future...or making games for console.but for profit is better to make a game for both consoles and arm platforms
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Annas, 17 Oct 2020The first to come, yes But next year we will have big arm ... moreOh yeah, they are barely starting
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Annas, 17 Oct 2020Again, its clear you dont have chip architecture knowledge.... moreNot only ARM but RISCV Too.
Apple will blow the socks of all these X86 Intel and AMD Dinosaurs when a properly optimised ARM Mac App runs natively on Apple silicon.
We are yet to see a proper Desktop ARM that runs on more than 7.5W yet, while these Desktop Dinosaurs run in 105W+ and produce heat like Thermal power plants.
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Anonymous, 16 Oct 2020Seriously, what x86 uses RISC? All of them are CISC.
x86... moreIf you are un-educated don't lie the people who enter here for learning new things
Don't talk about things you didnt research or you dont know about
"ARM-based Japanese supercomputer is now the fastest in the world"
Arm is the future, also for servers....big servers will run ARM by the end of 2030
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- 17 Oct 2020
hmm, 17 Oct 2020I have seen lots of laptops running windows that are with S... moreSorry, but i see you are without any knowledge
Apple is doing this for over 4 years !
Those who "TRIED" to use windows on arm devices...end up a MESS...i had the surface pro x....i like people who talks like you..it shows your actual knowledge
Look what mac mini dev kit can do....oh, i forgot you are a kid playing video games, but the developers who has that kit sees what others couldnt....Apple will be years ahead because they took their time to control both hardware and software...
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Lasuto, 17 Oct 2020You're the one that clearly doesn't have a clue t... moreAgain, its clear you dont have chip architecture knowledge....that guy who you reply to , he is 100% right and you, in your childish way, replied without any knowledge ,like any hater
The most powerful server/pc in the world is located for example in Japan and is based on ARM and all the big world servers will run by 2030 under ARM..less heat, less cooling, less weight but more power
x86 is dead...and Apple is leading the way...in a huge way
I think you are the only one who doesnt get it
Everyone, in PC and MAC world are exiting about this huge transition because Apple is the only one who took the time and controls both software and hardware now ..when microsoft tried with surface pro x was a mess...why? because they use QualC chip...they have only the OS into their hands.
So, if you don't reply in a more developed matter to explain your point...then dont bother to reply in just one childish sentence bec no one will take you seriously anymore