Sony Xperia shipments stabilize, but image sensor division slipped

28 October 2020
During the three months ending on September 30, Sony shipped the same number as Xperias as it did during the same period last year.

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Anonymous, 29 Oct 2020Another little issue. Unlike Samsung, Apple, Huawei and... morerx100 1" sensor in a phone? that's nokia 808 territory using 1/1.2” at 14mm thick, i doubt any photo orientated phone with 1" camera sensor as that means the phone will be as thick as 16-17mm, it will be a technically impressive, but a commerical failure as it won't sell

    Anonymous, 28 Oct 2020Pro has HDMI port, better cooling (vapor chamber, graphite... morebut where to buy the pro?

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      imparanoic, 29 Oct 2020note that asian only onkyo dp-cmx1 uses 2.5mm balanced whic... moreAnother little issue.

      Unlike Samsung, Apple, Huawei and other, Sony has many products that can overlap each other. Canibalize own sales inside the company.

      An Xperia with same capabilities of RX100 and walkman would kill both. Why would somebody pay $1200 on Walkman (yes, there is one that costs this much) and more $700 on Cybershot if you could pay $1200 on one product that can replace both and do tons of other stuff?

        imparanoic, 29 Oct 2020Sony over the years have pioneer many featues but they have... moreThe first Xperia 4K was the Z5 Premium.

          Anonymous, 29 Oct 20204.4mm jack uses too much power. Cannot be used on phone. note that asian only onkyo dp-cmx1 uses 2.5mm balanced which is the same as 4.4mm balanced, just different size, that's why need either ft capicators which are slim, but more expensive, while they could use os con capicators which ensure sufficent power for both 3.5mm and 4.4mm balanced, but the problem with that is that the phone will be as thick as 14-15mm as os con capicators are really big, hence why, nw-zx1, nw-zx100, even the nw-zx2 has a bulge

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            imparanoic, 29 Oct 2020 Sony could change their focus from as a few sony walkman e... more4.4mm jack uses too much power.
            Cannot be used on phone.

              Kek, 28 Oct 20203.5mm is not obsolete. It is only marketing work and compan... more Sony could change their focus from as a few sony walkman engineers were assign to improve the audio quality during the re-introduction of the 3.5mm unbalanced jack within xperia 1ii and 5ii, but he stated that if sony managers allow him, he wants to create an ultimate walkman phone with using tech from their audiophile range nw-zx507 and nw-a107, if he is allowed, imagine a thicker phone maybe as thick as 11 or 12mm (needs to be thicker to implement ft /high polymer capacitors for better and silent power supply (get rid of sibilance which is harsh s-s sounds ), gold plated shielding of audio components, even 4.4 mm balanced output for harder to drive headphones, maybe even back to machined milled aluminium which the xperia z2 uses as this more ridged and stronger chassis to improve the sound quality, or even better combination of sony usage of kobe metal for their special ALKALEIDO alloy (which is xz, xzs, zx1 uses, different to conveniential aluminium) alloy but machined milled better ridgity.

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                Kek, 28 Oct 20203.5mm is not obsolete. It is only marketing work and compan... moreIt's obsolete for me. That's for sure. Just because I hate wires hanging off my ears. Absolutely happy to go Wireless anywhere.

                  Sony over the years have pioneer many featues but they have a problem not advertising them, first phone with water proofing - xperia active, first phone to 960fps ultra slow motion -xperia XZs, first phone with cec compatible mode where you can control the phone with tv remote - xperia ion 2012 (samsung took this to another level with DeX though), first phone with high bitrate wireless/ high res wireless audio - xperia z3 plus/z4 2015, first 4k phone xperia xz premium 2015

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                    The selling step down cos of the design Sony not attractive, especially from Sony XZ2 to XZ3 models.

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                      AnonD-804996, 28 Oct 2020Sony is realistically only known for 2 things in the mobile... moreonly two things ? they pioneered almost everything all mobile phones use today, starting with water resistance, nfc... finishing with camera gimmicks.

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                        VectorR, 28 Oct 20203.5mm jack is obsolete thing for most people by now. I drop... more3.5mm is not obsolete. It is only marketing work and companies wanting to push their wireless solutions that died when the battery does. Don't be fooled by them.

                        You can have both 3.5mm jack AND use a Wireless headset if you want, and it cost next to nothing to have the 3.5 mm jack. And you literally are not gaining anything by having it removed.

                        Only stupid people believe the claims of "muh extra 100 mah" when we have devices like the A51, Zenfone 6, M31 that have a headphone jack and a huge battery at the same time.

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                          PLYRZR0, 28 Oct 2020No surprise that their biggest peak was when they released ... moreMost popular xperia ever : Z1
                          2nd most popular ever : Z3

                          Sony stopped making compacts because difference in sales of Compact and bigger phones started to increase a lot.
                          XZ1 was very popular in Japan, unlike XZ1c.
                          XZ2c is worst seller of Xperia history.

                          There will not be a 21:9 screen below 15cm.
                          Too narrow to use Pro apps.
                          5ii is as wide as Comapcts, now imagine using Cinema Pro on a phone narrow like iphone 5. Impossible

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                            Sony is realistically only known for 2 things in the mobile space. Their Compact models which were a fresh thing in space where everyone is making bigger and bigger everything and great imaging sensors. Their smartphones however never really crossed my mind. They just never stood out by anything and they were always priced ridiculously high.

                              Anonymous, 28 Oct 2020It wasn't the 3.5mm jack that took out Sony, it was ju... more3.5mm jack is obsolete thing for most people by now. I dropped the wires 3 years ago and will never come back to them. Yes, Sony's smartphone business problem consists in lack of attention to it which includes ridiculous price, availability, lack of features (or at least lack of unique feature that Xperias would do better than others), not the best warranty service.

                                No surprise that their biggest peak was when they released the Z3 Compact.

                                Hopefully the iPhone 12 mini sells well and they try to make a proper compact Android flagship to compete.

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                                  Dometalican, 28 Oct 2020Actually Japan will use it and China will pick it up next y... morePro has HDMI port, better cooling (vapor chamber, graphite, copper), mmWave antenna all over the body, dedicated button to start recording function of Camera connected to it. You can change screen brightness while recording.

                                  Not just rugged 1ii.

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                                    AnonD-909757, 28 Oct 2020Is it both big camera and smartphone camera sensor, or do t... moreIf any brand wants a sensor similar to imx700y , all they need to do is to order.

                                    Imx555 is for Samsung Mobile.
                                    Imx557 is for Xperia.
                                    Iphones have exclusive sensors.
                                    Huawei has exclusive sensors.

                                    Most OEMs choose to buy sensors from open portfolio like 586, 686, and 363 because they are cheaper.

                                    There is no 689 is best sensor. Sensors have positive points and negative.
                                    Resolution, readout speed, noise performance, DR etc ...
                                    There are sensors better at something , while other are better at something else.

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                                      Anonymous, 28 Oct 20201) 1iii will have between 4700-5000mAh 2) they will not ... moreActually Japan will use it and China will pick it up next year. Not just the US.

                                      Also the Xperia Pro is basically a rugged 1 Mark ii with 512GB ROM. That battery needs improvement.

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                                        AnonD-909757, 28 Oct 2020Is it both big camera and smartphone camera sensor, or do t... moreImaging Solutions is anout whole sensors.
                                        From mobile to Large Format.