Apple to announce ARM-powered MacBook Air, MacBook Pro 13 and 16 at Nov 10 event

03 November 2020
Supposedly three new MacBooks with ARM chips will be announced.

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YUKI93, 07 Nov 2020External GPU. Because of Thunderbolt 3 (TB3), I no longer b... moreApple said they will work closely with Intel to bring TB onto ASi-powered Macs, so rest assured.

    YUKI93, 07 Nov 2020I don't really like discreet GPU on the laptop because... moreI have always had a gaming laptop of some sort with NVIDIA discrete GPU, for light gaming but mostly for performance & screen resolution.

    I just bought a laptop with Ryzen 7 4700U (RAM 16GB 3200MHz) without a discrete GPU. It's blowing my Asus gaming laptop with i7 8th gen (16GB RAM) & GeForce 1070 out of the water in video editing & Blender benchmarks. My C/C++ compilation is astounding.

      abigfanoftechs, 07 Nov 2020I agree with your sentiment, in general. AMD is kicking ... moreI don't really like discreet GPU on the laptop because they are all slightly underclocked Mobile version of the standard GPU. True about having an external GPU enclosure, but I can swap for a newer or latest one if I fancy.

        YUKI93, 07 Nov 2020External GPU. Because of Thunderbolt 3 (TB3), I no longer b... moreI agree with your sentiment, in general.

        AMD is kicking Intel.
        Apple is leaving Intel.
        All Intel got left is TB3?

        You can buy laptops with AMD + discrete GPU ... just switch to internal GPU when required.
        Don't forget you need an external GPU enclosure + Graphics card. They aren't cheap.

        I'm going to guess Apple's ARM laptops with have discrete GPU.

        If you're serious about productivity like video editing then the new AMD Ryzen series are way better then Intel's offerings ... on desktop.

        Anf if you're into compiling C/C++ code then AMD Ryzen just kill Intel.

          abigfanoftechs, 06 Nov 2020LOL TB3 on laptops. What for, faster external ssd? LOL External GPU. Because of Thunderbolt 3 (TB3), I no longer build my own PC. I just hook it up on my Dell Windows tablet and game with it. Heck, even overall performance with video rendering on Premiere Pro and After Effects is easily noticeable on both Windows and Mac.

          For me, the biggest plus point with TB3 is flexibility - I only use the GPU when I need it. Most of the time, I just need the CPU only.

            YUKI93, 06 Nov 2020Not so fast if you are heavily relying on the Thunderbolt 3... moreLOL TB3 on laptops. What for, faster external ssd? LOL

              Nick Tagataka, 05 Nov 2020What you said is not even remotely close to being true.It is, for now....
              as I said, we will have to wait to see weather Apple made a decent arm powered laptops, or will it be a let down.
              people will buy it anyway...

                I'll wait to see the benchmark for Apple Silicon ARM CPU compared to more recent MacBooks with Intel CPU. Another thing I want to see is the Thunderbolt feature - I doubt if that feature will be available for ARM MacBooks, but we'll see about it.

                  abigfanoftechs, 04 Nov 2020Good bye Intel! Intel is getting pounded by AMD & now ... moreNot so fast if you are heavily relying on the Thunderbolt 3 feature.

                    PrYmCHGOan, 04 Nov 2020Well yes it is an ARM chip so yes it will produce less heat... more"Because there will be no active cooling"
                    Uhh what, just because you say so? I can bet my entire bank account on Apple putting an active cooling system for their ASi-powered iMacs and MBPs.

                      Anonymous, 05 Nov 2020I'm not sure about the battery and thermals... If you ... moreIf it performs better than most Intel-powered laptop at running full desktop apps while producing less heat and being more battery friendly, well then that will be enough for most consumer to believe that this is still a laptop and NOT glorified iPad Pro with a keyboard, won't it?
                      Just wait until the November 10th event comes around.

                        Ali Othman, 04 Nov 2020But Arm chips can not reach the performance of a laptop pro... moreWhat you said is not even remotely close to being true.

                          Anonymous, 05 Nov 2020I'm not sure about the battery and thermals... If you ... moreAll we have to do is just wait and see....

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                            Anonymous, 04 Nov 2020Disappointed by this move. Can’t run Windows, can’t run x86... moreDid not they showed rosetta2? A x86 emulator for macs

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                              Ali Othman, 04 Nov 2020But Arm chips can not reach the performance of a laptop pro... moreI'm not sure about the battery and thermals... If you under clock x86/64 to the same performance level as ARM counterparts, chances are, it very close. I'm just curious on how Apple will tweak the offset to convince the public it still a "notebook/laptop", when really, it becoming a gloried iPad Prooo with built-in keyboard and more.

                                Good bye Intel!
                                Intel is getting pounded by AMD & now Apple are moving away too.

                                  PrYmCHGOan, 04 Nov 2020Well yes it is an ARM chip so yes it will produce less heat... moreBut Arm chips can not reach the performance of a laptop processor.
                                  which means that the new Mac books will be a downgrade in performance, upgrade in battery and thermals.

                                    Maxakash, 04 Nov 2020No one is asking you to buy them. Also these apps will run... moreYes because Emulation of x86 will be better than the real thing?
                                    Are you familiar with video game emulators?

                                    Sure the low powered comsoles from the 80's and 90's run great in emulation, but more power consoles like PS or Xbox as examples, do terrible in emulation.

                                    Can you run Windows on it lowest specs? Sure. you can cheap out and get a laptop or desktop that offers the bare minimum specs that Windows will run on, but the experience will be terrible.

                                    Sure Rosetta can run x86 apps, but it is not a native environment. Why would you want to try to run x86 on none x86 platform?

                                    Apple continues to swicth platforms claiming it is better. First they left intel for Sega Chips (the 68000 series macs use the same chips as the Sega Genesis/Saturn), then they came back to Intel to go to IBM's PowerPC. then that failed and they came back to Intel again.

                                    The sole reason Apple is doing this because they don't like paying others for their hard work. In this case, namely Intel.

                                    I hope when apple comes running back, Intel tells them to drop dead. The problem is, Intel like Smasung can't say no to money. This is the downside of profit driven companies.

                                      Ali Othman, 03 Nov 2020let's hope it has better performance, cheaper and prod... moreWell yes it is an ARM chip so yes it will produce less heat.
                                      Because there will be no active cooling, it also means under heavy load the computer will throttle down like your phone. which means performance will not be consistent over long period of usage.

                                        Anonymous, 03 Nov 2020Good... let's see if they can really walk that new App... moreNow the mac will be even more limited than Intel options.