Kuo: Don't expect significant camera upgrade on iPhones until 2023

08 January 2021
There will be improvements in the software department, though.

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AnonD-972548, 09 Jan 2021Yes, is very true. Initially Chinese phones copied Apple or... moreI can safely say most iPhone users are not iPhone users because of iPhone's cameras or iPhones chipset. Not those things alone or even together. It's the whole experience that nearly all Android fanboys are downplaying. It's the whole experience. I still have iPhone XR. Which is by current standards pretty old and not even close to having stellar specs. It has just 1 camera and still uses LCD display. But the thing is, whole experience is just so good I literally don't care, it still makes amazing photos, it has amazing sound, image on LCD display is amazing and it's still stupid fast even today. I never had such great experience with any Android smartphone. I regularly check this site and see new phones and look at them and say "wow that's really cool and what specs you get for the money". And then I remember it's running Android and that I'll be again subjected to months long waiting to receive new update and after 2 years I'll be stuck with whatever I got at that point. And constant weird issues and tiny annoying glitches specific to that vendor as well as dealing with disgusting Google data hoarding and often sad app quality where you're forced to dig through hundreds of copycat apps to maybe find one that actually does what it says it does and isn't crap at doing that. It's this whole experience with iPhones that just makes me so hard to go back to Android. I don't care if it's a "walled garden" like everyone is whining. Walled garden is the reason they have certain things done better and no Chinese phone maker can make that better because they depend on Google for that and that part is why experience is crappy. One could make a phone with Galaxy S20 Ultra specs for 500€ and in all honesty, I'd probably still hesitate. I kid you not. I wish that wasn't the case so I'd have bigger selection of smartphones, but instead I like iPhone and iOS so much that I'm not comparing them to other devices but to themselves. Would future iPhone without any ports be a significant annoyance for me to opt for Android again or would I accept the wireless only charging. I didn't care about headphone jack because I never listened to music on phone, but being limited to slower wireless charging only would pose as a real issue, because that limits my ability to charge the phone in car or at work. All seems to be going in that direction and that just might actually be the reason I return to Android phone. There is just one problem. Android phone makers love to copy Apple. So I think we'll all soon be stuck with stupid portless phones if rumors for Apple going with that in the future is true. And it all looks like it is seeing MagSafe charger for iPhone as a big thing...

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    [deleted post]Yes, is very true. Initially Chinese phones copied Apple or Samsung, because they wanted to make a name for themselves. They needed to enter the market somehow. But in time, they become better and better at lower prices.
    Iphone users probably used some Chinese phone 3-4 years ago, didn't like it and now they are saying that all Chinese phones are bad for eternity. Lol.
    I suggest to them to compare a new 600EUR model from Xiaomi, Realme or One Plus with their 1000+EUR iphone. And they will see how little differences are. And in many ways the Android phone is even better than the iphone. And I am not talking specs on paper in here.

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      • kky
      • 09 Jan 2021

      No camera updates from a phone within the next couple years?
      Let alone from an iphone?
      Shocking.....

        We are ok with it , we are due hards of Apple Inc
        Apple is so professional in improving it products let wait and see

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          • 09 Jan 2021

          SizN80, 08 Jan 2021That’s all they can do is hate on iphone while nobody buys ... moreHigh end segment is above 2000$.
          Android dominating there.
          No iPhone to be found there.

          Cheap products will always remain in low end cheap category below 2000$

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            • 09 Jan 2021

            SamsungApple21, 08 Jan 2021Cameras are pretty much good on every flagship, I think it&... moreImx 686 already available on most budget devices. The same sensor that won the mkbhd 2020 blind camera test.

            HM2 Sensor which is successor to Galaxy Note 20 Ultra is already available on Redmi phone.

            It's iPhone with their tiny sensors that needs an improvement in camera quality.

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              • Dpc
              • 09 Jan 2021

              [deleted post]If Mr.Bl@ck Mamba has said people are preferring Android flagships over iPhone, then it must be true.
              Him and the other Captain guy with 10k plus posts are some of the most respected members on this site. Most importantly, these guys actually sell phones from different brands unlike the iTr°lls like jdk, SizN80 who have never even used an iPhone.

                AnonD-972548, 08 Jan 2021Incoming Apple fanboys: "Why change something that is ... moreThere is nothing in the iPhone 12 that is better than your average 2020 Android flagship.
                That is the hardcore truth which these guys have a hard time accepting.

                There is nothing new on offer.
                "New things" and features on iPhones are hardly useful. They are gimmicks.

                Magsafe?? Lol weak magnets don't provide any safety. Proven gimmick, designed to make users pay X amount of dollars for some cheap magnets.

                LiDAR?? To get portraits?? Cheap looking background blur to compensate for small sensor.
                People in 2020 don't need LIDAR or Potrait mode anymore. The sensor size is big enough to give natural background blur that doesn't look artificial. Nobody uses AR on smartphones, not even on Android.

                What else is new? New design? No they stuck to the old look with that terrible notch.
                What else? Ohhhh no charger in the box.... That's definitely new... a new LOW 😂😂

                What else in new? Ohhh the same old fast charging speeds from 2016.
                And the battery life that got worse compared to IPhone 11 series.

                Anything else? Ohhh the A14 chip which is marginally faster than A13 and got beat by the ROG 3 sporting 7nm chip in speed tests. A14 also throttles badly compared to A13.

                Technically, every new thing is nothing but a gimmick which is why most reviewers not recommending iPhone 11 users to upgrade.

                People who buy iPhone are just people who want that Apple logo on the back.
                Another reason why smartphone cases for the iPhone without the cutout at the back for Apple logo hardly sell.

                  i0S...Never...Again, 09 Jan 2021Hell yeah.. I bought the OnePlus 8 pro(12gb/256gb) at Rs.60... moreEven in the iPhone world, the budget $600-$700 model phones are the top selling.
                  The iPhone pro Max version doesn't sell much compared to other models due to high price.

                  If Apple launched cheaper 200$ iPhones, they'll see most of their sales going to these models. The sales of high end models would drop just like on Android. But they won't do it, since profit and greed outweighs consumers.

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                    • 09 Jan 2021

                    i0S...Never...Again, 09 Jan 2021Hell yeah.. I bought the OnePlus 8 pro(12gb/256gb) at Rs.60... moreiBoys don’t get this argument that if Apple selling lot of flagships, there is nothing to be proud of unless you are a stockholder.
                    Android customers never bother about which of their OEMs makes more money! For the business it may be relevant but for Technology that gets obsolete in few 2-3 years in the smartphone world, customers don’t bother investing more than $300 - $600 in the Android and yet they get the maximum value for their money, freedom to upgrade anytime without having to worry about blowing their wallets !!

                      IlovetechTBH, 09 Jan 2021Another apple clown comment. Lots of people buy android fla... moreHell yeah.. I bought the OnePlus 8 pro(12gb/256gb) at Rs.60k over the S20 ultra (Rs. 97k) last year.
                      I didn't buy the expensive device blindly as it had Exynos.

                      These guys believe that people can't afford iPhones so they buy Android phones.
                      On one end they say that iPhones are selling the most, on the other end they say most people can't afford it, so they buy Android phones when in reality the most expensive phones on the market are all Android.

                      They forget that even budget Android phones these days are enough for the average user especially with 65W charging, 108mp camera, 120hz screen, big battery, no notch and other exclusive Android features coming under Rs.20k (under 300$).
                      So most people don't need to buy Android flagship as budget devices are doing the job for them.
                      They don't need to buy iPhone either as the so called flagship iPhone lacks all these things. Why should those people buy the iPhone then? For show-off?

                      I will upgrade this year to some other Android flagship simply because I can.
                      These guys will rationalize it as me not being happy with my device.
                      These guys are operating on a totally different tangent.

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                        • Anonymous
                        • 8pp
                        • 09 Jan 2021

                        What can we expect Then?
                        Trillion dollar company can't give anything significant?
                        Boooooooooo!!!!!

                          SizN80, 08 Jan 2021That’s all they can do is hate on iphone while nobody buys ... moreAnother apple clown comment. Lots of people buy android flagships so you are extremely wrong. And are you calling them broke. I'm sure most android users on this website don't have a low end android. You are just speaking nonsense android flagships are selling decently atm.

                            Anonymous, 08 Jan 2021Well none of those are true. Their soc was not always the f... moreShhhhhhh.... Don't break the bubble they are living in. They won't be able to handle the reality of their inferior purchase. (Lot of the people over here don't even own one)

                              SizN80, 08 Jan 2021That’s all they can do is hate on iphone while nobody buys ... more"while nobody buys flagship androids lol,their flagship androids sell poorly all they buy is low end androids"
                              Typical apple fanboy comment. Don't even try android flagships get a lot of sales and their midrange phones also. If you want to admit you are salty you can pal. Instead of making stupid claims.
                              "wHiLe nObOdY BuYs fLaGsHiP AnDrOiDs lOl,tHeIr fLaGsHiP AnDrOiDs sElL PoOrLy aLl tHeY BuY Is lOw eNd aNdRoIdS" Really?

                                I'm just here to enjoy the comments

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                                  • 09 Jan 2021

                                  Androidfanboy, 08 Jan 2021Doesn't matter the iPhone 12 Pro Max is the best camer... moreSure thing buddy... And I am the Prime minister of Norway!!

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                                    • 09 Jan 2021

                                    [deleted post]You should see the look on iOS users face when they realize a bunch of things are missing from their iphones which has been present on Chinese skins for quite a long time.
                                    They can't believe they paid premium price for 3rd class product which lacks the finesse of Chinese skins.
                                    One touch and your phone transforms. On iOS all you can do is resize widgets in a handicapped limited manner. Lol they call that customizability. SMH.

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                                      • 09 Jan 2021

                                      Anonymous, 08 Jan 2021"Innovation" Am I right bois? What a jokeInnovation is possible only on Android.
                                      Last time Apple innovated was the first iPhone.
                                      They are left to play catchup like a puppy 🐶

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                                        • 09 Jan 2021

                                        Anonymous, 09 Jan 2021Hahaha true!!! Pay 1000€ for a device and having zero choic... moreIf you want choice, switch to Android.
                                        I was an IPhone fanboy for long time then I used an Android flagship, never been happier.

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