Samsung to introduce a plethora of ISOCELL sensors, 200MP included

09 January 2021
2021 is going to be a big year for Samsung's cameras.

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Mobilemaster, 09 Jan 2021Samsung sensors are almost as good as Sony sensors, come on... moreSamsung sensor is great, but sometimes useless. They just wasting their time and money on this 108, 200 or 250MP camera sensor that won't give any major improvement. Take a look at iPhone and Pixel phones. They are still using 12MP sensors but still able to capture high quality images. It's not about quantity, it's about quality. Samsung should focus on improving their 50MP, 48MP and 64MP sensors. 108MP, 600MP is unnecessary.

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    • 09 Jan 2021

    blue.sun, 09 Jan 2021Telephoto cameras will always be useful, because "zoom... morethen where does the ISOCELL sensor come in all this?

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      • 0CN
      • 09 Jan 2021

      AnonD-973296, 09 Jan 2021can someone explain me this article i don't quite unde... moreTelephoto cameras will always be useful, because "zoom" on this sensor means that it only cuts a part of the whole image. When it uses the full area of 200 MPix, it can combine data of several pixels into one and simulate better dynamic range or larger pixels. The result of both photos would be say 12 MPix, but the image quality of the zoom would be far behind the full-area image.

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        • Anonymous
        • JT5
        • 09 Jan 2021

        AnonD-973296, 09 Jan 2021can someone explain me this article i don't quite unde... moreIsocell is how Samsung names their sensors, same way Sony calls Exmor.
        Also isocell means a tech to prevent light from leaking to neighbor pixel.
        Actually no sensor has this issue today.

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          • JDx
          • 09 Jan 2021

          Ah yes, we definitely need more megapixels on the same tiny sensor size

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            • Jca
            • 09 Jan 2021

            AnonD-973296, 09 Jan 2021can someone explain me this article i don't quite unde... moreObviously no. Crop will never be reach the quality of optical lens. In fact the further you want to capture the image, the worse will be the result cropping. And add also the digital processing to the obtain the final image. If cropping is as good... Why don't remove the optical telephoto lens from the Ultra model?

            Advertising the S21 and S21+ as 3x hybrid soon knowing that the real optical zoom is 1.1x seems more like a scam then anything else, and more asking the prices they ask. Why not 5x hybrid if they are that good without optical telephoto lens? Because it would be too obvious the lose of quality and that is almost all digital.

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              • GYi
              • 09 Jan 2021

              can someone explain me this article i don't quite understand it, like what's an ISOCELL sensor? does 200MP mean we don't need tele cameras in our phones anymore?

                So Samsung are chasing no again, it's really a pointless exercise.
                More mp does not automatically make for better photos and adds to processing overhead to boot.

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                  • Anonymous
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                  • 09 Jan 2021

                  While I love this accomplishment I think Samsung would greatly profit from developing more dedicated camera software. They are the kings of hardware, but just a slight increase in AI stacking and color accuracy could make them even better.
                  Adding to that I think there is a LOT of optimization to be done. We have so much raw horsepower on the phones, there needs to be more clever ways to make use of it than increaing the scale.

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                    • 09 Jan 2021

                    PRoArtsy, 09 Jan 2021Your comment itself shows that you would never take the und... moreToshiba no longer makes cameras sensors.
                    Business was sold to sony.

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                      • pQr
                      • 09 Jan 2021

                      Anonymous, 09 Jan 2021No one zooms in while watching photos unless you're do... moreNot true. Many people zoom into their photos. Pinch to zoom is a very popular feature.

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                        • vGj
                        • 09 Jan 2021

                        does this mean we will no longer need telephoto cameras??

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                          • JT5
                          • 09 Jan 2021

                          i0S...Never...Again, 09 Jan 2021Incoming Sony guys who'll bash these sensors for the s... more1) All exmor are superior to their Isocell counterpart.

                          2) Sony is not stupid to make a 200MP sensor for mobile. Not even for medium format cameras they would make.

                          3) Samsung is always copying sony sensor tech.

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                            • 09 Jan 2021

                            Anonymous, 09 Jan 2021Of course they can. Pinch to zoom exists for a decade, but ... moreNo one zooms in while watching photos unless you're doing a camera comparison. People just view the image as a whole. If everyone was really zooming in Apple would be out of business by now

                              Seems like serious competition for sony sensors, which is great for customers.

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                                • 09 Jan 2021

                                Anonymous, 09 Jan 2021These sensors are probably not for phones as phones can... moreOf course they can. Pinch to zoom exists for a decade, but apparently there are still users that don't know this feature.

                                  PRoArtsy, 09 Jan 2021Your comment itself shows that you would never take the und... moreSamsung sensors are almost as good as Sony sensors, come on! Samsung is a very good brand, even if it comes to camera sensors, but I am not saying they are better, because it is not the case.

                                    Taking hdr raw stack on this will be fun. its like 17x 12mp.

                                      i0S...Never...Again, 09 Jan 2021Incoming Sony guys who'll bash these sensors for the s... moreYour comment itself shows that you would never take the understanding that Samsung sensors are inferior to Sony-Toshiba-OmniVision sensor... But still, I would ask you. How well the Samsung's 108 MP sensor received against the Popular 12-48-64 MP Sensors from other brands? .. Ask yourself that question!

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                                        • 09 Jan 2021

                                        And the image quality still terrible as always. :-(