2021 iPhones will have smaller notches, LiDAR and sensor-shift OIS

21 January 2021
We're expecting four iPhone 12S phones in the Fall.

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  • 04 Feb 2021

Wily2021, 25 Jan 2021I'm 100% sure majority of people prefer noticable bett... moreHave you surveyed about it yet?
Even if you did, should never use more than 99.9%
Even apple sells their expensive brick for $1099

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    • cherry
    • 8XB
    • 03 Feb 2021

    Eh, 22 Jan 2021Why is androids lifespan so short and you have to get a new... moreIt has nothing to do with Android. I just want something new after 3 years, get bored and can afford to buy what I want. The old Android phones that I had all still work flawlessly and are used by my mother and my grandmother. :D

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      • Norwegian Gangster
      • p%L
      • 26 Jan 2021

      Anonymous, 25 Jan 2021IPhones 12 can't even get its white valance right whic... moreAre you taking about Mkbhd blind test??? Since that is the test where iPhone white balance issues in Auto mode were exposed. It's funny how other phones which cost 6 times less get better photos and don't have white balance issues.

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        • Anonymous
        • gq3
        • 26 Jan 2021

        Wily2021, 25 Jan 2021802, Nio, LhX are all one person. It’s funny how none of th... moreSure Little~Wily!!!

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          • Anonymous
          • Ni0
          • 26 Jan 2021

          Wily2021, 25 Jan 2021802, Nio, LhX are all one person. It’s funny how none of th... moreHow do you know I am not commenting in articles other than Apple?
          Lol you are the anonymous scq that hates on Android and keeps kissing iOS a$$ in every article. And I don't know who these other anonymous guys are.

          You just hate my list because it shows you how much of a compromise iOS experience is compared to Android.

            [deleted post]Oh wow, see I guess the world can finally put the whole Android v iOS debate to bed eh, 'Its and Android' has just settled it.

            Nah mate, it can and will continue to be argued, and yours is simply just another opinion on the subject, nothing more.

              802, Nio, LhX are all one person. It’s funny how none of these anonymous trolls didn’t comment to any article in this site at the weekend, but here are they again sametime. There’s like 15 anonymous trolls commenting only in Apple articles, they never write to any other articles, but in reality those are 2-3 different persons. I exposed them.

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                • Anonymous
                • Ni0
                • 25 Jan 2021

                Wily2021, 25 Jan 2021My cousin been oneplus user for many years, now he went to ... moreIPhones 12 can't even get its white valance right which is why It got kicked out in first round against the OnePlus 8t.

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                  • Anonymous
                  • JhU
                  • 25 Jan 2021

                  Wily2021, 25 Jan 2021My cousin been oneplus user for many years, now he went to ... moreAlso notice, I am comparing particular models (8T and iPhone 12)

                  Your cousin might have had very old model of OnePlus (you don't even say which)

                  Also, see any unbiased review between iPhone and any Android Flagship and you'll see the whole situation, you still can't get out of that bubble, good luck!

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                    • Anonymous
                    • JhU
                    • 25 Jan 2021

                    Wily2021, 25 Jan 2021I'm 100% sure majority of people prefer noticable bett... moreI am 100% sure that people prefer smoother screen than slightly better camera which is very relative thing, whereas difference between 120hz and 60hz is huge :)

                    I bet you will change your opinion when iPhone 12s or 13 will have 120hz and say "oh god, that 120hz is so USEFUL and COOL"

                    Also, of course everything goes down to preference, Android or iOS?
                    For me Android is better because of better functionality and customization, but to be honest phone is a phone and 80% of won't find so many differences between those two OS, so the comparison is mostly between specs

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                      • Wily2021
                      • Scq
                      • 25 Jan 2021

                      Anonymous, 25 Jan 2021Get out of "Apple Bubble" and accept the reality ... moreI'm 100% sure majority of people prefer noticable bettter camera on iPhone over those things like 120hz screen and other stuff you listed :) So like you see, pretty pointless comparison really.

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                        • Wily2021
                        • Scq
                        • 25 Jan 2021

                        Anonymous, 25 Jan 2021Get out of "Apple Bubble" and accept the reality ... moreMy cousin been oneplus user for many years, now he went to 12 Pro and couldn't be happier. Now i can also take seriously when he show me pics he took. With OnePlus, oh boy the photos were horrible. always wrong colours and white balance so wrong.

                        Comparisons like you just did are pretty much useless, as everyone have different taste and needs. For example you forgot to mention that 8T is just huge in size compared to iPhone 12. I never compare different phones with each other because every phone has cons and pros. Some do better in some areas and some others in other areas. It's the overall packet which matters. It's also funny how you value different things better than others in your comparison and also downplay those things where Apple is ahead :)

                        Also biggest con with OnePlus is just a fact that it runs android ;)

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                          • Anonymous
                          • JhU
                          • 25 Jan 2021

                          Wily2021, 25 Jan 2021Droidboys like you definately makes us feel like we have so... moreGet out of "Apple Bubble" and accept the reality that Apple is the greediest brand nowadays. Steve Jobs time was the only time when Apple was great... Now it's only "popular brand" which sells overpriced tech with no innovations, no advanced technologies.
                          You know what is production cost of iPhone 12? Approximately 400$... But Apple sells it for twice more, 800$ (and that's only 64gb versions, if you want more +100$) Also, if you consider other countries, the price might go up to 1000$ which is insane!
                          You might say that other brands also sell overpriced tech, and I will agree. For example regular Note 20 is overpriced. But this is applies on few cases, whereas 90% of Apple products is overpriced.

                          Let me compare 2 different phones and see:
                          OnePlus 8t Vs iPhone 12
                          1. Price and Memory:
                          OnePlus 8t 128gb costs ~600$ whereas iPhone 12 64gb costs ~800$...
                          You save 200$ and get more memory!
                          2. Screen:
                          OnePlus and iPhone 12 have both OLED screens, but OnePlus 8t's got bigger screen, less bezels and NO Notch! In addition it has 120hz display which makes it smoother and immensely improves user experience
                          3. Battery:
                          OnePlus 8t wins with 104h score on GSMarena Vs iPhone 12's 84h score.
                          Also OnePlus has warp charge of 65w, it is charged from 0 to 100% in 39 minutes, whereas iPhone 12 only supports 20w charging and also, you won't have charger from the box! (This means you have to spend ever money)
                          4. Processor:
                          This is hard one.
                          A14 Bionic is better than Snapdragon 865, but the question is, do you need A14 Bionic's power?
                          It won't make higher FPS than 60 on 60hz screen in games, and also 80% won't be able to use it's potential, so what the point of overpowered proc?
                          Snapdragon 865 on the other hand is strong enough to handle most of the game on high refresh rate and is perfectly strong for daily tasks too. It sure will be relevant for 3-4 years if you consider having phone for that long.
                          5. Camera.
                          Arguable too.
                          OnePlus 8t has decent camera, but iPhone 12's is slightly better I think. But again, it's better only on raw pictures without any set up and manual changes.
                          If you know how to use camera settings, know how to edit pictures, with OnePlus 8t you can achieve astonishing results with camera. It's like art, if you have skills and know what you are doing, you can make masterpiece with any materials, even if they are "bad".

                          Of course I didn't compare every single spec, these were the main points of phones when person considers buying new mobile. See, OnePlus 8t here dominates in almost every aspect?

                          P.S. what's your argument, ecosystem for 5 years just to have inferior phone in other aspects? Open your eyes, Apple's production is far from perfection, it has some flaws when compared to other phones..

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                            • Wily2021
                            • Scq
                            • 25 Jan 2021

                            [deleted post]Droidboys like you definately makes us feel like we have something very special in our hands. I mean the effort you guys put to hate Apple and their devices and how obsessed you are is something out of this world for sure :)

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                              • Anonymous
                              • p%S
                              • 25 Jan 2021

                              Androidfanboy, 22 Jan 2021I love how triggered Android Fanboys get when the iPhone is... moreApple the King?? Lol... sure a King which has control over only 14% of his kingdom.
                              Sure buddy!!

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                                • ybx
                                • 25 Jan 2021

                                Anonymous, 22 Jan 2021iOS does lack quite a few things. People want to a no compr... moreLOL where are you copying this EXACT SAME laundry list of so called "cons" from?

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                                  • 25 Jan 2021

                                  Wily2021, 23 Jan 2021I like what you did there! :DMeanwhile : Iphone / IOS :
                                  - UX design on IPHONE 12 PRO MAX atrocity Worse Ux design ever, on mac that's "ok"
                                  I want to throw my phone against a wall when I see how badly the UX & Ui is.

                                  - 3D Facial security is awful and easy to bypass
                                  - No pen support !?!
                                  - Default keyboard is shiiiT
                                  - Respect of privacy null (fake privacy protection too)
                                  - No way to improve your launcher or apps experience !?!
                                  - No real gesture support, perhaps in 2030 !
                                  - No underscreen fingerprint reader, (so did not even bother to put it on the side like sony)
                                  We do not have the tech ready so well we delete it, and tell you wait for the next phone H4H4H4
                                  - Open setting to control apps, not even a underlevel menu. YAY. that's sexy so much sexy !
                                  - No real application use of LiDAR tech. Super sad !
                                  - Dumb'd down User Interface.

                                  Always steps behind in technologies against Android sometime over 2 years+
                                  I feel ashamed to have purchase an Iphone premium model, even if it did cost me virtually nothing. I wanted to be a sheep too, I knew Android was so much better but I had to !
                                  should have stick with their cheapest iphone, just need for app.
                                  Since, it's so much inferior to what you want do with an Android phone.

                                  Even Huawei with Mate 40 pro there are more novelties , applicable functions for the users. (if you do not mind all your data belong to ...).

                                  Have less, dumm-it down and be happy customer !
                                  There's your Apple user intelligence, agonisingly.

                                  If only :

                                  PureOS/Librem
                                  Ubuntu touch by UB
                                  Lineage OS
                                  Kai oS
                                  If only any of those could become mainstream and surpass Android and that perfectly inconsistent ioS...

                                    Anonymous, 24 Jan 2021Investing to ecosystem? Heh, :DD "of course", acc... more” accept the fact that only few people have their mobile phones for more than 3 years, they change it every 2 year or so (sometimes more often!)”

                                    Fact? :D

                                    Average upgrade cycle nowdays is 3 years, soon it’s 4 years because it’s growing all the time because phones are so good nowdays, there’s no real reason for normal smartphone buyer to upgrade anymore. That’s why companies put all the effort to camera, because that’s basicly only area where noticable changes can be made for masses.

                                    https://www.gsmarena.com/weekly_poll_how_long_will_you_keep_your_phone-news-44070.php Just look this gsmarena poll and remember these people who voted aren’t even average smartphone buyers and most popular choice is 3 years, 4 years are also really high.

                                    This just isn’t good trend for Android OEMs that people keep their phones longer and longer. For Apple both ways are good.

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • JhU
                                      • 24 Jan 2021

                                      Wily2021, 23 Jan 2021That’s not real reason. No-one expect them to support their... moreInvesting to ecosystem? Heh, :DD "of course", accept the fact that only few people have their mobile phones for more than 3 years, they change it every 2 year or so (sometimes more often!) so as a result 5 years of support is more of a marketing stuff from Apple. Yes, marketing and advertising, that's the real niche of Apple, easily influencing and manipulating people with their unique "views". Oh they remove the charger because they care about environment! - But in fact they save some money and make boxes smaller = smaller boxes mean more space in transport = means more boxes can be transported at the same time = PROFIT.
                                      Also, accept the fact that Apple is the brand that cares about the customers the least, their priority is money. You might say other brands also prioritize money, but remember what Apple did last 4-5 years? Quality product, but no tech innovation, only stuff to reduce their production cost and increase profit. No 3.5mm jack in iPhone 7, No earphones from the box, now no charger, what's next?
                                      Why do people don't see this? Apple marketing and them being "blind" because of it. Yes, some brands copy that marketing things, but they are not so aggressive as Apple is.

                                      Stop being in "Apple Bubble" defending it with ecosystem, open your eyes and accept the fact Apple isn't the same company as it was when Steve Jobs was alive.

                                      P.S. I am not Android Fan Boy, it's just the Android system is only other option apart from iOS, I used to be on Windows Phone before and was hoping it could have great future, but Microsoft killed the system...

                                        Anonymous, 23 Jan 2021The real reason, why brands using android, not supporting d... moreThat’s not real reason. No-one expect them to support their cheap phones, but one would expect little bit more for return paying $1000 for Android phone. The reason is the one which i said, it’s just bad business for Android companies if you keep your phone a long time, because they aren’t getting any other money, except Samsung is getting something from their services. Android OEMs need to sell new phones. For Apple it’s win win as long as you buy new model or keep your old model. People are anyway investing to ecosystem.

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