The new Snapdragon 780G is a 5nm mid-range chip with flagship-grade modem

25 March 2021
It has a triple ISP and an NPU that is almost as fast as that in the 865/870. It features Kryo 670 CPU and Adreno 642 GPU.

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Anonymous, 10 Apr 2021Hold Up! Even the 780G is numbered as a mid range chipse... more860 and 870 are not exactly flagship chipsets, specially with the SD860 being a reworked version of a 2 year old chipset, 870 is based off something a bit more recent still behind the 2021 flagships 888 and 888+

  • Anonymous

Hold Up!

Even the 780G is numbered as a mid range chipset, nothing about its antutu 8 Score of over 500000 is mid range, Who creates what sector it falls into?, Technically it seems more of a downgraded 888.

It's significantly ahead of the 768G and slightly ahead of the 860 as well, that means the 860/870 are no longer flagship chipsets, correct?

Same story with the Exynos 1080, it simply is not a direct upgrade over the 980, the Exynos 1080 presses way above general mid-range standards including the the 780G from anything currently at the top of the mid-range, namely the Dimensity 820/1000C/1000L.

I would really love to know the unit cost for the 780G vs 860 vs 870, but then is 870 still coming as a package with an external modem? I'm assuming the 860 like the 855 can be had as a stand alone LTE SoC or with an external modem?

The Exynos 1080 easily is an overall improvement from the Exynos 990 nevermind the 2100.

Is it simply nerd consumers and the SoC industry who wants people to think that the 780G is anything but flagships, especially when it now has an Antutu north of the 860 chipset.

  • Anonymous

Nobody, 30 Mar 2021exynos 1080 performs as same as dimensiy 1200, that means e... moreBefore throttling, of course!
After Exynos 2100 looses about 25% of his framerate, we can doubt.

That was the same with Dimensity 1000+ and Exynos 990, 990 was better on paper, better on benchmarks...but after only 7 minutes, look at the previous video! I don't invent anything!

I find an other video, it's even worst I thought :
https://youtu.be/1lvYphwhJSg
Look at specific GPU's score :
S21 managed to stay cool but GPU's score falls from 250.000 to 185.000...on Exynos 2100

With the same test, on Realme X7 Pro with Dimensity 1000+ GPU's score starts only with 200.000pts but at the end is still 193.000pts! (True, K30 Ultra's behavior isn't as good with the same soc)
https://youtu.be/qiiEhpSA3tc

  • Nobody

Anonymous, 30 Mar 2021https://youtu.be/KC6GS79dfIs Already last year... Dimen... moreexynos 1080 performs as same as dimensiy 1200, that means exynos 2100 is much better than dimensity 1200.

  • Nobody

Anonymous, 30 Mar 2021https://youtu.be/KC6GS79dfIs Already last year... Dimen... moreDid you know that exynos 1080 is better than dimensity 1200 by a little

  • Anonymous

simp, 30 Mar 2021780g will a real deal cause 765g lack of gpu 780g will im... moreBeware, it's not sure Adreno 642 is better than 640...

Qualcomm said 780G's GPU is 50% better than SD768G...
Adreno 640 is nearly twice more powerfull...

Plus Qualcomm just released Snapdragon 860 with Adreno 640, I doubt 780G will beat it

Plus memory bandwidth is 2x16bits on 780G when it's 4x16bits on 855/855+/860...memory bandwidth is very important for GPU...
Nevertheless +50% is already not bas.

All is very unclear. We have to wait for the tests (Mi 11 Lite 5G)

  • Anonymous

Duck of death, 29 Mar 2021Here's a real life physical fact: You can buy what Sam... morehttps://youtu.be/KC6GS79dfIs

Already last year...
Dimensity 1000+ (TSMC 7nm 9 cores Mali G77) vs Exynos 990 (Samsung 7nm 11 cores Mali G77)
And the winner is...Dimensity 1000+ with 2 less cores! Better framerate, more stable! After 7 minutes Exynos 990 throttles!
Well done Samsung!

I even wouldn't be surprise if Dimensity 1200 beats Exynos 2100 in real game!

  • simp

MrDong, 28 Mar 2021Yes the SD765G had to be severely downclocked, people thoug... more780g will a real deal cause 765g lack of gpu
780g will improve dat with adreno 642 (sd855 use adreno 640)

Anonymous, 29 Mar 2021It's physical fact : transistors density is 38% better... moreHere's a real life physical fact: You can buy what Samsung makes, you can't buy what TSMC makes. Numbers doesn't mean sht when it doesn't work!

Duck of death, 29 Mar 2021Anand trying his best to do selective comparisons to make S... more100% correct.... Whenever certain benchmarks don't go the Apple way, Anandtech comes out with their own custom benchmark to show how it is better.
So many people over here can't see through the deception.
I remember how the Note 4 was downplayed in their reviews as it was destroying the equivalent iPhone that year in every department.

  • Anonymous

Duck of death, 29 Mar 2021Anand trying his best to do selective comparisons to make S... moreIt's physical fact : transistors density is 38% better on TSMC's 5nm compare to Samsung's 5nm...

Anonymous, 29 Mar 2021Here is your marvelous so called 5nm process : https://www... moreAnand trying his best to do selective comparisons to make Samsung look bad?
That is the only thing that air has done the last 15 years.
Internet Fake News was invented by shills like Anand.

  • Anonymous

Duck of death, 28 Mar 2021You can buy things made by Samsung. You can't buy jack... moreHere is your marvelous so called 5nm process :
https://www.anandtech.com/show/16463/snapdragon-888-vs-exynos-2100-galaxy-s21-ultra/6
Not better than TSMC's 7nm!
Even with tiny gain over 7nm, TSMC's 6nm will be better than Samsung's 5nm.

But with lower frequency, smaller GPU, 780 will probably be stable and efficient...and far in term of performances from D1200 or even D1000+

  • Anonymous

MrDong, 28 Mar 2021This is the case with the A13 and below, also owning to poo... moreThis is the case with A14 joker....

Manohar, 28 Mar 2021Lol are you fan of samsung Samsung foundry is sub standar... moreYou can buy things made by Samsung. You can't buy jack sht made on TSMC's fake news hyped failing factory processes.

Sent on my S21U, using a real and working 5nm processor.

  • MrDong

Manohar, 28 Mar 2021Lol are you fan of samsung Samsung foundry is sub standar... moreYes the SD765G had to be severely downclocked, people thought that chip performed equal to the SD845, but no, it’s a lot worse. I read this on Anandtech. I’m not looking at the Pixel 5, but other phones with the same chip.

  • MrDong

Android-Authority, 28 Mar 2021Nope... IPhone throttles the chip immediately after it hits... moreThis is the case with the A13 and below, also owning to poor CPU optimisation. But not on the A14 (iPhone 12) onwards.

  • Manohar

Anonymous, 26 Mar 2021You are completely wrong, it's nm not mm. Samsung ... moreLol are you fan of samsung
Samsung foundry is sub standard to tsmc.
Samsung is the main reason for overheating of 888 and 2200.
Qualcomm could have choosen tsmc if they have enough capacity from 5nm tsmc.

MTJ, 26 Mar 2021The heating problems of A14 are mainly due to poor cooling ... moreNope... IPhone throttles the chip immediately after it hits a certain temperature to prevent overheating. The chip is the real Culprit. Lack of cooling solution makes it worse.
It is the reason why Apple is so aggressive with throttling the cpu.

  • Anonymous

Looks decent, but they should've upgraded memory speed a bit. It's still on 2x16 2133 lpddr4