Sony Xperia 1 III and 5 III announced with 120Hz screens, variable telephoto lenses

14 April 2021
The two boast the industry-first telephoto camera with variable focal length.

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Anonymous, 14 Apr 2021Studies are based on demographics, they don't take int... morePrices across the world are irrelevant. If I'm in Europe or the US, I'm going to buy a used phone from Europe or the US, not India or China, so that point is moot. And if you think anecdotal evidence is more accurate than actual studies, in pretty much all of Europe used iPhones are sold at prices much closer to their launch ones in comparison to Samsungs at the same point in their life cycles.

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    i0S.-.Never.-.Again, 14 Apr 2021But they aren't garbage which is why they are selling ... moreYes I agree, I won't trust Sony today... Lack of service centers, lack of qualified people running their smartphone department, lack of availability of phones and parts as well making overall repair expensive. 10 years back, I could have trusted Sony as it has some kind of market presence, sadly today no one cares for Sony. Chinese brands have established their trust in the hearts of people. Only people in denial are salty Sony boyzzzzz who can't let go of their past glory lyk u said

      Anonymous, 14 Apr 2021586 was not better than 400 on XZ2/XZ3 for many various rea... moreTIL being 63% larger in area is the very definition of "definitely not better". Apart from Dual Pixel AF, what does that tiny 1/2.9 inch sensor have over IMX586?

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        Photo Pro is now the only photo app.
        The regular photo app is gone.

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          pufanu, 14 Apr 2021A recent study states that on average, iPhones lose approxi... moreStudies are based on demographics, they don't take into account whole world.
          Also prices for iPhone across the world are different.

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            Anonymous, 14 Apr 2021586 was not better than 400 on XZ2/XZ3 for many various rea... more400 on XZ2/XZ3 was not better than 586 for many various reasons. And it's definitely better than telephoto sensor in 1III/5III again for various reasons.

              Anonymous, 14 Apr 2021Qualcomm refers to 4K DCI resolution. Xperia 1 resolution i... moreThat was actually a blindspot for me, thanks for clarification.

                Anonymous, 14 Apr 2021Bet haters are already crying because 10iii has auto HDR li... moreI mean I'm pretty sure "average consumers" are not willing to go into Photo Pro app just to force enable HDR all the time, and then to have awful photos in darker scenes due to softness introduced by Photo Pro's HDR processing.

                  i0S.-.Never.-.Again, 14 Apr 2021Not necessarily... Sold my iPhone 11 pro Max for Rs.60k, bo... moreA recent study states that on average, iPhones lose approximately 43 percent of their value in the first 12 months and 61 percent after 24 months. When it comes to Android devices, Samsung is the best at holding value, but it's not even close to Apple. In 12 months, Samsung devices lose 64 percent of their original price. After two years, they'll lose an average of 76 percent. Your experience is anecdotal and doesn't hold much meaning.

                    Anonymous, 14 Apr 2021There is no Quad Bayer. They do not have interest of usin... more"They do not have interest of using on their Pro Gear nor for xperia"
                    It's pretty obvious at this point that Sony is treating Xperia 1/5 lineup as a companion device for pro photographers rather than as a professional camera itself. For ILCs with large sensors Quad Bayer doesn't make a lot of sense, but for a mere companion device? I think having extra resolution helps a lot more than it hurts, since you will be using a digital zoom A LOT if you try to use it in exactly the way you handle a dedicated camera.

                    "Just a way to milk money out of the other. Quadbayer are cheaper to make"
                    The sensor cost is generally proportional to the sensor area, not an inverse of the amount of pixels that you cram in per area.

                      Nick Tegrataker, 14 Apr 2021Hint: They called it a 4K120Hz display, not a display capab... moreMost likely they are going for the Z5/XZ Premium Way. The panel is 4k@120Hz but runs at 1080p@60 Most of the time and locks 120hz through firmware.

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                        NotAnOpinion, 14 Apr 2021Something is fishy here. Reminds me of the lie that Sony ha... moreQualcomm refers to 4K DCI resolution. Xperia 1 resolution is WQHD+ but Sony calls it 4K cause its the closest to 4K Cinemascope resolution for now.

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                          Bet haters are already crying because 10iii has auto HDR like all other brands, while the other two do not, which is gonna force the "average consumers" to spend 3s of their lives to turn it on while leaving all other settings on auto.

                          LOL ....

                            NotAnOpinion, 14 Apr 2021Something is fishy here. Reminds me of the lie that Sony ha... moreCheckout Novatek Display Driver For Xioami.

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                              Shui8, 14 Apr 2021'There is no Quad Bayer. They do not have interest o... more586 was not better than 400 on XZ2/XZ3 for many various reasons. And it's definitely not better than telephoto sensor in 1III/5III again for various reasons.

                                NotAnOpinion, 14 Apr 2021Something is fishy here. Reminds me of the lie that Sony ha... moreHint: They called it a 4K120Hz display, not a display capable of rendering 4K AT 120Hz. They would be still able to use the former term even if they had to drop the resolution to 822p in order to achieve 120Hz refresh rate.

                                  pufanu, 14 Apr 2021I'm not an Apple fan either, but iPhones having the be... moreNot necessarily... Sold my iPhone 11 pro Max for Rs.60k, bought it for Rs.117k, sold it for essentially half the price.

                                  My OP8 pro will go around Rs.35k, essentially half the price.

                                  The resale value for iPhones being good is another myth.
                                  The effective value depreciation is around 50% just like rest of the smartphone world.

                                    Initial thoughts:

                                    - Very good phones (great screens, processors, software, features)
                                    - Not good prices (no price cuts, low availability)
                                    - Must have features (IP68, microSD, Headphone Jack, Front-firing stereo loudspeakers)
                                    - Disappointing rounded body on X5.3 (the X1.3 has awesome angular body)
                                    - Mediocre cameras (competitive for early 2020, not for late 2021, PRO-features are cool)
                                    - Wondering if there's display options for resolution and frame rate (ie To extend battery life)

                                    ....I'd like to buy the X5.3 but not a fan of the rounded body (or lack of Corning Victus) and lack of Wireless Charging. Moving up to the X1.3 now I'm not sure if it's too big, and expecting more battery capacity, and sharper camera at this size.

                                    ...then there's the elephant in the room that is 2022: the start of a new AndroidOS version running a new architecture ARMv9. It might be a case akin to buying a Snapdragon 805 (32bit/Android 4.4/Nexus 6) when the Snapdragon 820 (64bit/Android 5.1/Axon 7) launches afterward. So it might be worth waiting for the X5.4 or the X1.4 instead of these ones.

                                      Something is fishy here. Reminds me of the lie that Sony had stated about the PS5s bandwidth for 2.1 hdmi is actually limited to ONLY 32GB/s vs XSX 40GB/s!

                                      The SD 888 can only render up to 4K 60, on Qualcomm's white paper, but Sony is claiming... again... that the Xperia 1 lll can render 4K@120, something that is not true or announced by Qualcomm.

                                        Anonymous, 14 Apr 2021I keep hearing about resale value for iPhone's but whe... moreI'm not an Apple fan either, but iPhones having the best resale value is a very easily observable fact. It's not even a discussion, regardless of your poor BS attempt.

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