Nikkei: Apple is starting mass production of the M2 chips this month using TSMC's N5P process

27 April 2021
N5P is a refinement of TSMC's original 5 nm process called N5, which further increases clock speeds and reduces power usage over N7.

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  • 27 Apr 2021

Only previous Mac users upgrading to. Most are comfortable with Windows

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    • Anonymous
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    • 27 Apr 2021

    Anonymous, 27 Apr 2021Who cares about Niche PC DIY market, more than 65% sales co... moreI care and where i live in Europe the majority. We also use laptops and more powerful that those from Apple. I have two laptops and two PCs. It's rare watch someone with an Apple here. I only know one person that now have its iMac taking dusk. It's an iMac of 27". He got worried and angry of how Apple and developers for Mac works in relation to the software updates and also upgrading posibilities. But above all with the software and that after some sdk changes being forced to purchase again some apps due to compatibility problems and developers not letting upgrade without a new purchase or big payment, so he refused to do it.

    Now he use the PC i built for him and very happy to the freedom it gives to him. He discovered a new world with it and he is very happy now. He still use an iPhone 7 Plus and probably he'll use it forever for the use he gives to it. One of my uncles also has an iPhone. The rest of the family, all with Android and very happy. So as i said it's rare find Mac here outside some store.

    iPhones are a bit more common but what i usually notice and watch at the stores is that people watch them a lot, test them and then not buy. It's very curious watch it.

    The only place i used a Mac were in the university to learn programming on all operating systems including macOS (OS X) and iOS. We used Mac minis for that purpose. I can work on it if needed.

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      • Anonymous
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      • 27 Apr 2021

      Anonymous, 27 Apr 2021apple isnt really a good example to bash intel.... they pu... moreYour comment speaks for itself


      Excellent MacBooks were severely compromised by shitty Bintel barbage CPUs .

      Now Apple is using its own design, MacBooks will sell like crazy.

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        • Anonymous
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        • 27 Apr 2021

        Anonymous, 27 Apr 2021PC can be upgraded and also be used for work plus gaming. S... moreWho cares about Niche PC DIY market, more than 65% sales come from laptops and that's where the companies make the money's .

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          • UD{
          • 27 Apr 2021

          IpsDisplay, 27 Apr 2021Hardware upgrades like these are basically wasted by Mac os... moreprogrammers say yes but for an ordinary user like you will disagree.

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            • Anonymous
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            • 27 Apr 2021

            Anonymous, 27 Apr 2021oh no it's going to put shintel to shameapple isnt really a good example to bash intel....
            they put the worst available intel cpus at a high price (*cough* mba 2019) then the next year they use the best chip they have

              As the N5P is only 5% performance or 10% power improvement compared to N5 don't expect much especially not increase in core counts for the same power targeted devices.

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                • Dkp
                • 27 Apr 2021

                Apple and xiaomi making fool innocent people each year saying most powerful processor in the world/universe bla bla...

                Xiaomi: 5000/6000 mah battery big mammoth display slower miui etc.

                  YoloBS, 27 Apr 2021a touch screen Mac is what people want.Not gonna happen, any time soon, MacOS UI isn't designed in a way that it can be touched.

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                    • 27 Apr 2021

                    YoloBS, 27 Apr 2021a touch screen Mac is what people want.I think more importantly is to have mac os on ipad when keyboard is attached.

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                      • Anonymous
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                      • 27 Apr 2021

                      AnonD-940827, 27 Apr 2021Wait? What? Apple? Hmm. Since when did apple make their own... moreI believe that they order them to TSMC... How the title of the news is worded leads to confusion.

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                        • Anonymous
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                        • 27 Apr 2021

                        YoloBS, 27 Apr 2021a touch screen Mac is what people want.I have a 17" touch screen notbook and i never use it, i hate watch fingerprints in the display so i doubt that people in general want watch a dirty display. And less working in thing that require put attention to design details like the circuits boards i design or in art, image or 3D design too, etc.

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                          • 27 Apr 2021

                          Wait? What? Apple? Hmm. Since when did apple make their own chips?

                            a touch screen Mac is what people want.

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                              • Vardhan
                              • 7kp
                              • 27 Apr 2021

                              Well the current performance of M1 Macs is more than sufficient for 98% of users for the next 3 years. What we need is versatility in ports on the processor side and a new minimal bezel design on the build side.

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                                • Anonymous
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                                • 27 Apr 2021

                                AnonD-994147, 27 Apr 2021This devices will not be targeted at gaming. Also, other pr... morePC can be upgraded and also be used for work plus gaming. So i prefer spend in a multipurpose device than waste money in several ones. A good PC last me more than 7 years easily. I'll build my next one once the shortage end. Probably in the H2 of next years if the problem persist.

                                I also use a miniPCs for multimedia purposes connected to my smartTVs as give you a lot more posibilities without the restrictions of the closed systems and also a bigger compatibility with decoding software.

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                                  • DenDan
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                                  • 27 Apr 2021

                                  Well, the same old history: shipped doesnt mean selled.

                                  Hahahahaha, Apple are dreaming high.

                                  Ok, the chip is good, cheers but...they dont sell as much as they advertise, its only marketing to try selling more.

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                                    • Anonymous
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                                    • 27 Apr 2021

                                    IpsDisplay, 27 Apr 2021Hardware upgrades like these are basically wasted by Mac os... moreIt doesn't matter. It's for the bragging rights of rich people who don't have to worry about their next McDonalds meal.

                                      Anonymous, 27 Apr 2021Macs have specific use cases such as video editing, graphic... moreSome people don't realize that a computer has more uses than gaming. This is for both windows and Mac. Even for windows, people evaluate the device based on gaming performance like it is all that device is meant to do.

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                                        • 27 Apr 2021

                                        IpsDisplay, 27 Apr 2021Hardware upgrades like these are basically wasted by Mac os... moreThis devices will not be targeted at gaming. Also, other processes require a great deal of computing power (even more than gaming). And a lot of professionals will take advantage of this new devices.
                                        Anyway, if you want to game just grab a PS5 or Xbox Series X (of course, when they will become available, lol). Personally, I always found console gaming simpler and more fun than PC/laptop gaming.