ZTE Axon 30 with second-gen UD camera to launch on July 22
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- Anonymous
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- 21 Jun 2021
The below comment section isn't for faint of heart people are abusing each other for no reasons
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- Anonymous
- JT5
- 21 Jun 2021
AnonD-909757, 21 Jun 2021We can still use a periscope style solution, the sensor is ... morePeriscope is not gonna work with wide field of view like 20-22mm.
Also, a 1/3" has 5,86mm diagonal.
This is about pixel area only.
It does not count the frame of the sensor, which sometimes is same size of pixel area or even bigger.
This is why the ugly cam bump.
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- AnonD-909757
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- 21 Jun 2021
Anonymous, 21 Jun 2021Problem is: Bezel limits the sensor size used for front cam... moreWe can still use a periscope style solution, the sensor is on its side and simply the hole in the bezel have a 90° prism, this way a much bigger sensor can be used.
In fact, depending on the solution you use, you can use the main sensor and simply rotate the prism 180° or use other solutions like this.
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- AnonD-909757
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- 21 Jun 2021
[deleted post]So :
*You know better than the security experts who advise to cover your camera?
*You know better than Mark Zukerberg who do it too?
*You know it better than the billions of identity thief, some having been compromised because of the front camera of their phones?
*You know better than the Uighur being actively watched by the front camera?
https://thenextweb.com/news/surveillance-group-exposes-disturbing-huawei-patent-for-ai-powered-uighur-detection
*You know better than those who figured out that the pop up did often pop up or many websites and apps showing clear sign of illegal snapshots?
*You know better than those who are victims of blackmail because of the front camera?
*You know better than all those who leaked information proving phones and smart home assistant collect many, and illegally data about users, including voice and image?
You know more than the United Nations Chief of Privacy?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/coronavirus-lockdown-surveillance-tracking-dictatorship-authoritarian-united-nations-privacy-a9438561.html
(The list could go on)
If not, rather than insulting a stranger, learn about the subject you are criticizing someone about, reality isn't defined by what YOU believe it is, and the fact people say things that YOU, personally, think are stupid, doesn't change their veracity.
Mass surveillance by many actors (government and multiple of their agencies, corporations, group that target some people based on their ethnic origin, nationality, beliefs, etc for many reasons) is a PROVEN FACT nowadays.
The simple fact that computer scientists, hackers, numeric security experts and programmers in general are often serious about privacy while knowing a lot about the subject, by itself prove something.
In my case, can code in C, C++, Assembly and other languages, and you, what's your knowledge about all that?
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- AnonD-909757
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- 21 Jun 2021
YUKI93, 21 Jun 2021If you seal the front camera slot from the rest of the phon... moreI mean, the camera itself can still pop up, but it isn't sitting in a hole opened to the phone's interior but rather in an external enclosure.
So it still has fulldisplay and native privacy advantages.
There are many water-resistant electric motors, but we could literally ditch the electric motor and use electromagnetic actuation instead, like my fictional concept phone :
https://imgur.com/gallery/ykYfaa6
So the pop up module itself have magnets, those align with other magnets in its enclosure that keep it in either up or down position, and an electromagnetic coil makes it move, it has virtually no moving parts and no wear, and the way I designed mine allow it to be used replaceable.
It needs either contact pins or a flat flexible data cable, though some may suggest it to be wireless and use induction to power it.
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- AnonD-909757
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- 21 Jun 2021
YUKI93, 21 Jun 2021The Poco F2 Pro is already a year-old smartphone by now, so... moreWell, it was the most affordable and closest to what I wanted while being not too old.
If there was a Poco F3 Pro that improved on it without loosing stuff (Jack, pop up, IR, etc) I would have of course prefer it, but for 300€ used I am satisfied with it.
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- AnonD-909757
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- 21 Jun 2021
YUKI93, 21 Jun 2021I definitely want to see either 16:9 or 18:9 smartphone scr... moreUnivisium, 18:9 or 2:1 as I like to call it is indeed a great format, and my favorite too, it is much more used than people think :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univisium
And it is indeed the best middleground for 16:9 and typical taller smartphone media :
https://m-cdn.phonearena.com/images/articles/276327-940/lg-g6-new-aspect-ratio.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SbhMp8u.png
After all, being 16:8 it is close to 16:9, and being 20:10 it is close to 20:9 and 21:9.
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- TSN
- 21 Jun 2021
AnonD-909757, 21 Jun 2021IP68 is overrated, and while I agree that water resistance ... moreIf you seal the front camera slot from the rest of the phone, then what's the point of having a pop-up camera in the first place? And even if that is possible, there are the electronic motors that operate the pop-up mechanism that needs to be concerned.
- YUKI93
- TSN
- 21 Jun 2021
AnonD-909757, 21 Jun 2021Sony make beautiful phones, their design may seem outdated,... moreThe Poco F2 Pro is already a year-old smartphone by now, so that is not a big concern to me. Even last year's Xperia 1 Mk2 and 5 Mk2 is still a good buy. I'm personally holding off the new Mk3 Xperia 1 and 5 because of the Snapdragon 888 thermal heating concern.
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YUKI93, 21 Jun 2021Pop up camera needs a motorized mechanism to get it working... moreIP68 is overrated, and while I agree that water resistance (not the rating) is important, the pop up can actually be made totally waterproof in various ways, almost all of which consist in sealing its slot from the rest of the phone, as there is no need for it to be opened up to the rest.
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YUKI93, 21 Jun 2021And that is why the current Sony Xperia smartphone design i... moreSony make beautiful phones, their design may seem outdated, but it is only because they don't try to change it every new generation but rather refine it, as it is functional and elegant.
Their bezels are slimmer for each new gen, and more than slim enough already, had the Xperia 5 MkIII been less expensive and there was no Poco F2 Pro, I would have probably chosen it as except for the lack of IR, it is one of the closest phone to what I am looking for.
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- Anonymous
- JT5
- 21 Jun 2021
Kedar284, 21 Jun 2021Better yet! The bezels of the Xperia'sProblem is: Bezel limits the sensor size used for front cam.
It is impossible to use something larger like 1/3" for example.
Iphone notch is thicker than xperia bezel, still has small 1/3.6" camera.
For decent front cam, you need at least 9mm.
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- 21 Jun 2021
Anonymous, 21 Jun 2021I have seen u bashing others who criticize Samsung in other... moreThat's the thing with me, I am not blindly hating stuff.
Yeah, I don't like the Apple brand for their anti customer behavior, yeah I prefer Android, but I have no issue saying what I consider good about Apple products, same for Samsung, Google and OnePlus, unlike typical Android fan and 100% Apple hater who will try to hate for no justified reasons.
So, if someone talks about one of the good thing Samsung did, like:
The S8/S9 bezel and/or the Iris scanner.
S10 camera layout.
General S10, Note10, S20, Note20 and S21 use of ultrasonic fingerprint or the good one in the S21.
The latest Exynos.
Integrated Pen of the Note serie.
The S21 Ultra camera setup.
Their use of Gorilla Glass Victus.
And much more stuffs like that, yeah, indeed I'll praise them for this, as those are good things, I don't like them, but I am not blind to their good things.
- YUKI93
- TSN
- 21 Jun 2021
AnonD-909757, 21 Jun 2021Bezels are one of the options that need to come back, but l... moreI definitely want to see either 16:9 or 18:9 smartphone screen making a real comeback. While 16:9 is still the gold industry standard for multimedia consumption especially for videos, 18:9 has the right balance between a tall screen and enough bezel for a front speaker or two and some decent front camera. That is why I still highly rate the Google Pixel 3 as one of my all-time favourite good-looking smartphone design to date.
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Anonymous, 21 Jun 2021the cons would be he wouldn't be able to spread hate f... moreBe grateful, it allows you to spread your own hate on my comment, I bet you actively look for comment you disagree with to do that.
Unlike you, I gave actual reasons why I do hate those, I am not blindly hating, doing it for the sake of it or because it is trendy to hate X or Y thing.
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- Anonymous
- Dke
- 21 Jun 2021
YUKI93, 21 Jun 2021And that is why the current Sony Xperia smartphone design i... morexperia my favourite because we can play highest fps possible in codm
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- 21 Jun 2021
Anonymous, 21 Jun 2021Pop up camera much better for selfies. Wonder why it didn&#... morePop up camera needs a motorized mechanism to get it working. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's not ideal for a truly water-resistant smartphone. Take the LG Wing 5G as an example - it can only have an IP54 rating because it has a pop up front camera, and IP54 is only useful for light water splashes. That is why OnePlus dropped the 7 Pro and 7T Pro's pop-up front camera and gone for a punch hole on the 8 Pro. That way, it can have true IP68 dust/water resistance.
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- Anonymous
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- 21 Jun 2021
AnonD-909757, 21 Jun 2021Ah, yes, with my Poco F2 Pro, and me basically hating on : ... moreI have seen u bashing others who criticize Samsung in other comment section stop lying
- YUKI93
- TSN
- 21 Jun 2021
AnonD-909757, 21 Jun 2021I really hope this tech will fail enough, so it loses its h... moreAnd that is why the current Sony Xperia smartphone design is my top favourite. No notch or punch hole to talk about, just a simple bezel for the camera and the speaker. No interruption from the notch or the punch hole when watching videos on full screen, and that is a big solid win for me. To me, it's either bezel or no bezel - that's it.
As for the UD camera, the first-gen iteration isn't selfie-worthy. I'll wait to see if ZTE can get it right with the second-gen successor.