ZTE readying another Axon phone with under-display camera

01 July 2021
Apparently, ZTE has improved upon the Axon 20 Pro's selfie camera quality.

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Demongornot, 06 Jul 2021Ok, nice try, but destined to fail.Huh? Ur reply seemed like a 5yr who didn't read the comment and just said destination failed. Pls use ur brain

Dudenoway, 06 Jul 2021yea yea. boriiing. i'm partocapiting to tell u to stop... moreOk, nice try, but destined to fail.

Demongornot, 05 Jul 2021And tell me, what are YOU doing beside literally participat... moreyea yea. boriiing. i'm partocapiting to tell u to stop ruining comments. not that i'm not participating but i'm sayign thta go read my other comment on the toher article

Demongornot, 05 Jul 2021You definitely can't understand simple sentences.You definitely cant read.

Dudenoway, 05 Jul 2021Man this guy is just pure bs. He worn stop ruining comment ... moreAnd tell me, what are YOU doing beside literally participating?
Look in a mirror before accusing others.
Laughable or not, at least I try to do something good.

Mediatek sux, 05 Jul 2021Ok so you arent doing anything. So do you. I agrees w... moreYou definitely can't understand simple sentences.

Mediatek sux, 05 Jul 2021Ok so you arent doing anything. So do you. I agrees w... moreMan this guy is just pure bs. He worn stop ruining comment sections of ud camera. He thinks he could raise awareness of blah blah which is laugheble. It's almost imp to ignore him

Demongornot, 05 Jul 2021And I already told you that this isn't your business, ... moreOk so you arent doing anything.

So do you.

I agrees with that.

Here we go again, another useless point.

You are using playstore. And you think its not laughing at privacy. Enough said.

Mediatek sux, 05 Jul 2021Im asking what you are doing about it. You arent either.... moreAnd I already told you that this isn't your business, as, like I said, WHATEVER I answer, you'll be mean, even if I would do exactly what you would do yourself, regardless if I do nothing, care where I point it, hide it when a cover, disable it, has a software solution, or anything else.

Sure, of course, you voluntarily pick up whatever you want from what I wrote, of course that you feel that way.

Obviously you haven't, yes, you said "can't", as those can't co-exist, because you lack the insight to understand how they can co-exist and even be complementary.

Where did I ever say that it wasn't a matter of preferences?
Have you missed the bazillions of comments I post about diversity where I continuously talk about the importance of having A BIT OF EVERYTHING as opposed to a single solution?
Or you still didn't understood that when I listed MULTIPLE solutions, it wasn't for proposing a single "better" thing that should be the only available stuff?

Here we go, the stroke/brain damage thing again, I literally talk about HOW YOU ACT, your BEHAVIOR -> TOWARD privacy!
I never said that the app store was respecting privacy, though again, by itself it doesn't do much, I said that using it doesn't mean you are against privacy, it is ACTING AGAINST PRIVACY that is AGAINST PRIVACY, how can you just not understand something that simple and obvious?
I am defending privacy while you are laughing at someone else because he is privacy cautious, THIS is being anti-privacy.
There are many "levels" and "ways" to protect your privacy, some aren't even compatible and are complementary, there is no such thing as a person who do EVERYTHING privacy wise, some will get as far as saying that owning a phone, regardless what it is, isn't caring about privacy, some will say that you should disable location and others will tell you that it is useless as any GSM already track your location, it DOES NOT mean that someone who still use/own his phone and simply disabling localization is anti-privacy.
But badmouthing privacy on the other hand is a totally different picture.

Demongornot, 05 Jul 2021I already explained about it, it is a totally different mat... moreIm asking what you are doing about it.

You arent either. You cant even read.

Because i have more insight, i said 'cant'.

Ok so its your preference.

Wow, the ignorance, playstore isnt anti privacy? Keep on believing that. That shows you are even more antiprivacy than me.

AnonD-1003038, 05 Jul 2021Who even thinks phones have no selfie cam when everyone is ... moreYou would be surprised how not directly seeing something affect people's comportment.
They did, and those moving camera would still be a thing if it wasn't for people lying about it and implying it is super fragile, while in reality it is rare to have one breaking.
And yes, it doesn't, sadly, that's why I am writing such comments, to say that there are alternatives, people are so obsessed by underdisplay camera that they forget we can do other stuff too, including no front camera, nor they understand that I am not saying all phones should have X or Y feature, but rather we should have a bit of everything available in the market.
Let's be clear, I am not talking about voluntarily hidden spy cam, just about how one's mind will act totally differently when seeing something or not while having a false sense of security by thinking that if the camera was to start recording the pixels would shut down, while it isn't the case.

Mediatek sux, 05 Jul 2021The rear cam. Sigh. So are you. Cant. Cant help bu... moreI already explained about it, it is a totally different matter and have to be handled differently.

What else can I answer, you aren't showing much sign of intelligence, you act as if proof I provide don't even exist, and you totally ignore explanations...

Because you have a limited insight, it totally can and should be.
Plus, people like you fail to understand that because we can't fix all threat at once, we should still work to fix some others.
Hence, why I talk about the front facing camera, because :
1) It is related to the underdisplay camera.
2) It is one of the easiest privacy's open door to fix at a hardware level.

I literally explained to you that it isn't the case, that I myself prefer other methods, and that it is just the ONLY available tech in modern phones that present any privacy advantage, you are the one who is still obsessed by it as if I literally pray it, I only said that I prefer that over putting a tape on my camera or over other solutions such as bezel, punch holes, notches and underdisplay camera who don't offer the same privacy advantage.
Literally on my first comment on this session I listed it alongside OTHER alternatives and say they are BETTER THAN THE UNDERDISPLAY CAMERA and I didn't even imply that any of them was THE BEST.
Regardless, you are laughing at privacy, which IS an anti-privacy act, the fact you don't tape up you cam, as you say it, is NOT anti-privacy, the same way that me having the play store is NOT anti-privacy, laughing at privacy IS anti-privacy.

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Demongornot, 05 Jul 2021The issue is the cognitive bias it creates by making you fo... moreWho even thinks phones have no selfie cam when everyone is so obsessed with them that they added moving mechanical parts like popup cameras to include them. I personally couldn't care less if phone only came with rear camera and full uninterrupted display. But such phones simply don't exist as ALL of them have selfie cams. ALL of them. So, who's gonna think there isn't one just because it's not visible? Everyone just has to assume ALL phones have selfie cam by default, whether it's visible or not.

Demongornot, 05 Jul 2021"Hm? Then how else do you keep it covered?" Is i... moreThe rear cam. Sigh.

So are you.

Cant.

Cant help but mock someone who talked like popup is everything. Sorry man.

Mediatek sux, 05 Jul 2021Ok, you cant read confirmed. Hm? Then how else do you ke... more"Hm? Then how else do you keep it covered?"
Is it so hard to understand that the camera don't need to be covered because it is already inside the body of the phone, and therefor already can't see anything?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVjKajSY9cM

I don't even see the point of answering anything else since you are repeating the same things over and over now.

And what have the fact that now many services use online websites and/or apps to works over paper variant to do with people acting together to protect vectors of privacy leaks?
You do realize that both can co-exist, right?

I am not mocking people doing something for their privacy or any privacy insuring method, you are.

Demongornot, 05 Jul 2021You still cant read? It is a HUGE and LONG work that not ev... moreOk, you cant read confirmed.

Hm? Then how else do you keep it covered?

It sure seemed like a brag.

What stroke? Thats all you could come up with?

What is wrong with you? Why can you still not read?

Oh? Its one thing or another. Hard to have both. Gotta make some compromises. Like you tape your cameras and i dont.

Stop with levels and stuff, talk some facts.

Sorry, it sure seemed so.

Also,

"People have proven many times that if we all act together, we can change things, and they have also proven that they can ruin things when they are acting like you do.
A company is nothing without its customers, and if people were not laughing at privacy, there would be a lot of built it protections nowaday" oh really? Then whats this about -

"Sure, except the FACT that nowaday a LOT of OFFICIAL and OBLIGATORY things use smartphones apps in the first place, there is a reason why there are striped down gapps packages that contain only the playstore, because by itself it isn't much of an issue, proving that you are the one who know nothing."

Wow you really know nothing. You need an account in the first place, most official stuff you seem to care much about dont work otherwise.

Then i'm asking how else do you cover the cam? You dont?

Oh? Its antiprivacy? You like the playstore and official stuff right? Then you are antiprivacy.

Go on keep on bsing.










Mediatek sux, 05 Jul 2021You still cant read? Those who care. You know nothing ei... moreYou still cant read? It is a HUGE and LONG work that not everyone can do and there are already a lot of great privacy oriented ROM making it even more useless for a personal use to do that.

Except that I come up with facts, links, examples, and you, meanwhile, are like "tApE iT".

I didn't brag about it, you are the only one thinking that.

Nah, it is just you having a stroke here and making a nuisance of yourself, you just enjoy being mean for free, that's all.

What is wrong with you? It is too hard to understand that a camera who already can't see don't need to be covered?

Sure, except the FACT that nowaday a LOT of OFFICIAL and OBLIGATORY things use smartphones apps in the first place, there is a reason why there are striped down gapps packages that contain only the playstore, because by itself it isn't much of an issue, proving that you are the one who know nothing.

You can't record anything without making the camera pop, meaning you CAN SEE IT, and you KNOW ABOUT IT, so you can DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, and again, phones with pop up camera have been excluded from basically all selfie camera spying because it gives away the action.
So yes I can still be hacked, and either have the guy not able to do anything because he knows he'll be noticed, or make the camera pop out and simply don't get anything as, you know, I can do something ELSE than just staring at it, I can simply push it back down, cover it with my finger, disable my Wi-Fi and Data and analyze my network and phone.
But yeah, of course it is apparently much better to simply have no clues that someone hack you, you are a genius.
Literally, I could make a meme about you using the "Roll Safe" and writing "No one can see you if you can't notice them watching you".
You are truly on the next level.

I never said it is the best thing for privacy, I'd prefer having no front facing camera, nor I ever said it prevent other privacy intrusion vectors, I only said it is good for FRONT FACING CAMERA RELATED privacy, you are the one going insane with imaginary arguments here.
And in fact I didn't even say the pop up is the best at this, and when talking about underdisplay camera, the FIRST thing I say is that there is a better alternative being called "disappearing camera" which indeed have the same privacy pros as the pop up AND do a better job than the underdisplay camera.
If I talk about pop up is because it is the ONLY thing that have been on the market that do have any privacy advantage, along with phones with no front camera and a second display on the back, but your clones are also hating on this and making them impossible to thrive, while pop up had a more than decent life.

People have proven many times that if we all act together, we can change things, and they have also proven that they can ruin things when they are acting like you do.
A company is nothing without its customers, and if people were not laughing at privacy, there would be a lot of built it protections nowaday.

Except that I don't tape my phone camera as I already wrote a bazillion times, I am advocating techs who do it better and conveniently, but you still can't understand that.
And laughing at privacy of ANY level is being anti-privacy, the message it sends to any outside reader is the exact same, it all simply scream "privacy doesn't matter, and you are crazy for caring about it" which in turn affect ALL level of privacy.

Sure, make me laugh some more.

Demongornot, 05 Jul 2021Who can do what? Making a ROM is a HUGE work, there are alr... moreYou still cant read? Those who care.

You know nothing either.

Mocked your popup since thats the only thing you have been bragging about.

Your first sentence proves you cant read.

Then how else do you keep it covered?

Those who do need playstore dont care about their privacy as much.

Uh yeah, you can still can get hacked. But your popup will save you.

I laughed at your great popup. Since, you always keep on saying how its the best pro privacy thing ever.

Since companies are out to make money out of all the data, it wont happen, not because of people like me.

Ofc i care about privacy, but certainly not to the point where i keep my cams taped up like you.

Looking forward to your next bs.













Dudenoway, 05 Jul 2021Yes this demongornot guy is a mothfcer. He will reply to u ... moreThen simply don't answer me, it is simple.
BTW I usually don't report comments, but this one will clearly be an exception, you talk about someone else while insulting this person, this won't work.
The fact that I proved you wrong multiple times doesn't mean you have the right to disrespect and insult me.

Dudenoway, 05 Jul 2021I said that u never read my comment of just use ur phone el... moreDo you even realize that there are NO MORE new phones with the specs that I want, and that what I do is LITERALLY defending those specs that have been killed because ignorant people kept spreading misconceptions about them?