Sony Xperia Pro hands-on - true Pro or half-hearted concept?

11 July 2021
The $2,500 Sony phone has an HDMI port and one party trick - streaming over mmWave 5G.

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  • 16 Jul 2021

Anonymous, 14 Jul 2021Spot-on on what exactly? It's spot-on on their own set... moreWhen you're struggling just to get enough brightness to properly see the screen in the sunlight being perfectly accurate is not the issue... at all. Being punchy to be able to be seen is not going to be an issue.
And if the s21 Ultra can reach over 1000 nits then in accurate mode there's no way out couldn't even reach 500.

Nice try though.

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    • 15 Jul 2021

    Anonymous, 15 Jul 2021We trust professionals like displaymate over random anonymo... moreGood one

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      • Mkm
      • 15 Jul 2021

      [deleted post]We trust professionals like displaymate over random anonymous Internet tolls who can't handle Sony display being inferior to the one used inside Chinese brands or Samsung for that matter

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        • 14 Jul 2021

        Anonymous, 14 Jul 2021Spot-on on what exactly? It's spot-on on their own set... moreWe trust professionals like displaymate over random anonymous Internet tolls who can't handle Sony display being inferior to the one used inside Chinese brands or Samsung for that matter

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          • 14 Jul 2021

          Anonymous, 13 Jul 2021Displaymate results are spot on and gsm results stack right... moreSpot-on on what exactly? It's spot-on on their own set scale of what they think it consitutes a good achievement. It's not universal cause uniiversal doesn't exist much like when your amp classifies loudness in db units, it's measured against their exclusive manufacturer scale.

          Displaymate results are not in correlation with each other. Color accuracy, constrast accuracy, peak brightness are all tested without any realtionship to each other which means that you can't get accurate colors on maximum brightness. They DO NOT even mention gamma tracking anywhere and that's color accuracy in relatiioin to luminosity as brighntess bumps up. They DO NOT mention D75 anywhere, they are stuck with D65 all across their own test with assumption that all displays are run on D65 universally. See, their own set of scales what consitutes a good display.

          For example if you want color accuracy during the daytime D75 is a great starting point, yeah you might ask but what about universal color accuracy day and night and I will tell you there is no such thing, then you might say but this is a phone not a professional tool and I might ask you then why does displaymate test color accuracy in the first place? Xperia PRO has settings for calibaration on any illuminants you desire.

          Perfect experiment for you to try to test your brightness of the screen is to take your Samsung or OnePlus and put it in Natural color screen mode. Then go outside and see what happens, it wont punch above 500 nits I can bet my house on it. So where did rest of the 300 nits go? It's in vivid/default mode but then you can forget all about any great contrast accuracy, color accuracy, and all the stuff displaymate tells you how great is your display in their testing. You can't have them both honey, it's either eyebleeding brightness or it's everything else and in order to achieve that you have to fiddle in the settings menu, there is no quick flip switch. So now we can come to conclusion that you either appreciate extreme brightness levels (800 nits) or color accuracy at 450 nits.

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            • 13 Jul 2021

            Dometalican, 13 Jul 2021Alright bro. Not gonna waste my time anymore. Your gung-ho ... moreExactly. I'm not changing my stance on critical thinking. It is essential with facts and logic. You can lack it if you want but that's on you.

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              • 13 Jul 2021

              Anonymous, 13 Jul 2021dsiplaymate is set of test targets for sale. You can head t... moreWe trust professionals like displaymate over random anonymous Internet tolls who can't handle Sony display being inferior to the one used inside Chinese brands or Samsung for that matter

                Anonymous, 13 Jul 2021You are not calling bias out you are bringing it. And resta... moreAlright bro. Not gonna waste my time anymore. Your gung-ho against critical thinking clearly isn't changing so whatever makes you happy, roll with it.

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                  • 13 Jul 2021

                  Dometalican, 13 Jul 2021As I said on my first comment, I'm not a Sony fan. Jus... moreYou are not calling bias out you are bringing it. And restating what's already been addressed 1000x over.

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                    • 13 Jul 2021

                    Anonymous, 13 Jul 2021dsiplaymate is set of test targets for sale. You can head t... moreDisplaymate results are spot on and gsm results stack right up with them.
                    So troll again?

                      Anonymous, 13 Jul 2021You're not reading i even stated again that i said mul... moreAs I said on my first comment, I'm not a Sony fan. Just calling the bias out.

                      As I also said, yes, the price should have dropped. I agreed with you there but the author of this article is implying that Sony could have replaced the components with that of the 1 III and re-release the pro in that manner in the middle of the chipset shortage and that was not possible.

                      Simple as that and end of story.

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                        • 13 Jul 2021

                        Anonymous, 13 Jul 2021Go on a site like displaymate ,they give you detailed list ... moredsiplaymate is set of test targets for sale. You can head to ODM factory get your own branded bulk handset and send it to displaymate for a fee. The only three manufacturers who are not paying the test results are Apple, Samsung and Pixel. They are used as a bait to beat by OP Oppo Xiaomi and others who chase specs. Pretty much same as DxOmark , professional photographers doing the testing while posting images with distorted faces and palms.

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                          • 13 Jul 2021

                          Anonymous, 12 Jul 2021There is no shody performance in 5G where are you getting t... morePlastic can sent and chip. I do like it. Removable plastic backs was still the best.
                          But as a frame now a days? No. And again regardless of the supposed reasons doesn't change that is cost cutting so one more reason that's is baffling ridiculous to have such a price.

                          And go look up comparisons. The 5g didn't hold up as well. Plain and simple. Maybe they can update.
                          But thats always been another excuse with xperia. Oh there an update coming that will fix that.....

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                            • 13 Jul 2021

                            Anonymous, 12 Jul 2021Oh ok. Now we've come to the point that the best displ... moreYour analogy makes no sense.
                            And you're dang right that the brightness is a huge factor. They are both high resolution with very accurate output. The difference is the galaxy is larger, almost double the brightness, almost triple the brightness compared to the $2500 xperia pro, actually let's you choose and maintain your preferred resolution, and its not misleading you about the refresh rate. Not claiming that it's the first 4K 120hz screen when it can't even display 4K 120hrz.
                            S21U in fact maintains full 3k res and 120hz.

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                              • 13 Jul 2021

                              PRoArtsy, 12 Jul 2021Obviously, it was poor management back then. There is littl... moreThis is correction?? Ridiculous and astronomical prices on devices? Good joke. That's not correction. That's them leading on what they have done. Lack things, release late, release expense.
                              Goodies? They don't offer goodies. Even the pro offers nothing despite it doubling and quadrupling the price tag of better phones.
                              Pre order goodies are different and most devices offer them.

                              Announcing early and releasing late is not to prevent demand. It's supposed to create it. However this is what Sony has done numerous times and just like the rest of their poor managing ideas never get the picture it doesn't work.

                              If the phone falls behind other devices in other categories, is excessively more expensive then others, is not locally available, is not even available at all, and nothing even tells you it exists.... thats a design for poor sales. Through and through.
                              This just feeds the chain reaction of high cost devices lacking in comparison that sell poorly and lead them to think they need to raise prices more or give up.

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                                • 13 Jul 2021

                                Dometalican, 12 Jul 2021You're not reading. Redoing this phone with 888 wouldn... moreYou're not reading i even stated again that i said multiple times that's not the only thing they could have done. You clearly see.... not saying what I want to hear about Sony being God... so your brain is going activate defense mode and don't read anything i reply to make response that actually makes sense for what is in response to...

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                                  • 13 Jul 2021

                                  Anonymous, 12 Jul 2021You whole second points was "shoddy performance in 5g&... moreAnd again it was tested against another phone with mm wave 5g and performed worst. CAN YOU READ??????????

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                                    • 13 Jul 2021

                                    Anonymous, 13 Jul 2021too expensive. better buy a macbook proNah, not giving my money to Apple.

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                                      • 13 Jul 2021

                                      Anonymous, 13 Jul 2021What areas would that be?Go on a site like displaymate ,they give you detailed list of what those factors are.
                                      Not everyone is going to spoon feed you Mr.amateur

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                                        • 13 Jul 2021

                                        Anonymous, 12 Jul 2021Brightness is just one factor that the display on S21 Ultra... moreWhat areas would that be?