TEST: Is the Nokia 808 PureView's camera any good in 2021?
- YUKI93
- PIQ
- 18 Jul 2021
kek, 18 Jul 2021I'm just gonna say that those "Night" photos... moreThat is what PureView is all about - true-to-life realistic photo quality. So really, it's either realism or advanced dynamic range that you choose when it comes to lowlight conditions.
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- John
- PIQ
- 18 Jul 2021
Mobile tech. , 18 Jul 2021Comparing Xiaomi and Nokia, I still prefer Xiaomi, Nokia is... moreIf it's the case with modern HMD Nokia, I might agree with you. They still have a lot of work to cut off Xiaomi's dominance in budget and midrange segments.
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- PIQ
- 18 Jul 2021
Anonymous, 18 Jul 2021This shows why a bayer sensor with lots of MP phased out. H... more"Quad bayer can solve all of those issues at once"? Look at what the Quad Bayer sensor has done to the Xiaomi photo quality. Couple that with constant AI interruption, I'd be more than happy to take a normal Bayer sensor. Don't ever say that normal Bayer phased out, DSLR and Mirrorless camera are still using it. True lossless zoom is something that the Quad Bayer sensor cannot enjoy much because of the rearranged pixel.
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- sixtymes
- kvH
- 18 Jul 2021
Trooper, 18 Jul 2021Well, it's taken them 9 years to get there, while Noki... moreNokia, was a head of its time. Back then many were not concerned about camera/phone like they are today. KUDOS to Nokia and others for starting a trend.
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- Anonymous
- xq5
- 18 Jul 2021
Most pointless comparison in the world. Almost all smartphones have good cameras. If it isn't enough just buy a regular camera and not a smartphone.
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- LCQ
- 18 Jul 2021
Yuri84, 18 Jul 2021"Xiaomi may be too… expressive in terms of color, expo... moreThe Nokia pure view 808 is still a better camera phone compared to the modern periodic trends.
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- Anonymous
- U{p
- 18 Jul 2021
Rather than comparing with one of the best Camera phones in the market, tshould compare it with a midranger
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- Rkm
- ypc
- 18 Jul 2021
Shui8, 18 Jul 2021Well this is a smartphone website afterall, not specificall... moreGsmarena doesn't do that though. They just provide the sample, mention the general quality and leave other stuff as it is. That's what I like about them. I was referring to some youtubers earlier. Everyone should in fact look at the sample available here. Photo comparison tool is so useful.
I wouldn't blame youtubers too though. That's their job and it sells. That's what people want and they give it to them. I just wouldn't adhere to their recommendations.
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- Yuri84
- 0T@
- 18 Jul 2021
"Xiaomi may be too… expressive in terms of color, exposure, contrast, or whatnot"
It's just that Xiaomi has an excessive amount of sharpening, same as my Samsung A52. My old Sony A6000 has a much more natural look to its photos, despite using cheap lens on a very old sensor. For most shots I prefer A52, though, simply because it is always in my pocket. But for dedicated photo sessions I'd rather take my full-sized camera (and, maybe, upgrade to a full-frame... although I'd still prefer not having to process RAW files).
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- Shui8
- KZK
- 18 Jul 2021
Rkm, 18 Jul 2021I have no problem with HDR. My issue is when reviewers choo... moreWell this is a smartphone website afterall, not specifically into camera, unlike DPreview. What they want to show more towards its camera CAPABILITIES, daylight, indoors, lowlight, its features and Auto mode, whereas 90% of smartphone users will use, rather than showing some photography SKILLS.
Honestly, I'm ok with that. Pretty sure most of us as well. If one got the skills, they'll take the advantage on what the camera capable of.
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- Rkm
- ypc
- 18 Jul 2021
Shui8, 18 Jul 2021Modern phones in computational using Auto HDR + image stack... moreI have no problem with HDR. My issue is when reviewers choose terrible photos just because it has shadows lifted and highlight brought down. Just because you have a lot of DR doesn't mean you have to use it all the time. Some phones tries to control the sun, the goddamn sun and make it a round ball on the sky. It's OK to blow some highlights. Currently it is taboo to blow any part of the image even if it make the subject look bad. It will get better and algorithms will improve, but we are currently in dynamic range appreciation phase.
I actually appreciate Xiaomi because they are conservative to an extent. Even though they have a lot of DR, they do try to make the photo artistically pleasing.
Computational Raws from phones are great now. The apple proraw and pixel computational raw have all the data from stacking / merging without applying any processing. Try it out, they are great.
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- Shui8
- KZK
- 18 Jul 2021
Rkm, 18 Jul 2021My favourite is when they shoot a high contrast scene like ... moreModern phones in computational using Auto HDR + image stacking, not all the time (try to replicate what our eyes sees). DR gain is so so much better eventhough sensor size below 1", can get up to 13-14 stops (near FF level! But computational JPEG only, RAW still limited by the sensor size).
What you suggesting is an effect that playing with light & shadow, which professionals photography prefer more rather than HDR flat look (what our eyes sees). The thing is, modern phone can took both. Easily by disable HDR, using light metering, exposure level or fiddling with manual mode. However ancient 808 DR level is limited, act like a real camera with no computational to imitate bigger sensor camera. I'll prefer the modern method in smartphone more.
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- Trooper
- 39y
- 18 Jul 2021
Rage, 18 Jul 2021Xiaomi is years ahead.. but I wonder if is the same advanta... moreWell, it's taken them 9 years to get there, while Nokia has pretty much stood still...
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- Rage
- n1w
- 18 Jul 2021
Xiaomi is years ahead.. but I wonder if is the same advantage with a truly revolutionary phone camera like Panasonic DMC CM1!
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- Anonymous
- Lj$
- 18 Jul 2021
Do not forget 808 has old sensor with old tech.
Sensor from 2021 with same specs would provide much better results even with exactly same software in terms of DR, signal to noise ratio etc ...
The 2022 phones do need variable aperture like F2.0 - F2.4 - F2.8 to avoid all that blur when people take closeup shots.
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- samcp
- PAf
- 18 Jul 2021
No mention of xenon flash on nokia 808??
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- Nokia symbian
- BiP
- 18 Jul 2021
nurfahmy, 18 Jul 2021Imagine nokia 808 comes with android at the time, what will... moreRather coming with android imagine with symbian belle updated, I bet the competition it would be different.
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- Woohoo
- 7kk
- 18 Jul 2021
We similarly need a Lumia 950XL throwback camera comparison, PLEASE!!🙏🏻
that fixes much of the hazy & dim look of 808 & warmer look of 1020 & probably has better HDR (if u really want that flat look sometimes) through RichCapture/HDR. It can also record 4k@24/25/30fps which is in line with today in terms of res & also please compare the superior AUDIO CAPTURE at higher dB.
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- Rkm
- DkZ
- 18 Jul 2021
Anonymous, 18 Jul 2021My favorite is how quickly they come to point out "blo... moreMy favourite is when they shoot a high contrast scene like from a dark room to a window or through a foliage to a bright natural attraction and the phone gives a pic which should go straight to r/shittyhdr , but they are blown away that everything is well exposed and nothing is blown out. That pretty much makes me stop valuing their camera opinion.