Samsung details the cutting edge features of its 200MP ISOCELL HP1 sensor

21 September 2021
The 4x4 pixel binning mode gives this sensor an effective pixel size of 2.56 µm. 2x2 binning can be used for 8K video capture with minimal FoV loss.

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Better then your eye

    Basically the 200mpx its a gimmick since the real deal will be 50mpx for 8k filming.
    The why don't produce a 50mpx rgb sensor? I'LL NEVER understand this companies.

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      • Anonymous
      • Mkm
      • 21 Sep 2021

      Incoming Sony fans hating on this sensor

        LG Superfan, 21 Sep 2021I agree if it doesn't have high quality digital zoom i... moreMost companies seems to be cropping into the binned low resolution images instead of the max resolution images, so the results are bad, you're right I noticed Realme and Xiaomi have done it right, the Realme 8 Pro and the Mi 11 have great digital zoom without a proper telephoto lens.

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          • Wezz
          • 6rF
          • 21 Sep 2021

          Samsung will kill Sony in the sensor market ... and cameras too

            At least the sensor size at 1/1.22" is bigger than the existing 108mp sensors but doesn't really seem as good on paper as the gn2. Will be interesting to see how it performs

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              • Anonymous
              • teu
              • 21 Sep 2021

              Anonymous, 21 Sep 2021Sammy : uses 200MP Eye fruit: uses 12 MP Result is not ... moreYeah. But if you see new iphone 13 pro max camera comparisons on youtube, you will understand the limitations of 12mps when compared to competition.

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                • Shui8
                • XM7
                • 21 Sep 2021

                No Super Res features? Or is it in software/ISP later on? If taking advantage of that 200mp on pixel-binned 50mp, can get good quality 12.5mp image up to x4 continuous zoom at least. But knowing Samsung previously, they left that thing out, which a waste of high res sensor. Only solely depends on other primes.

                  first he said that the level of detail in a photo is determined by the number of pixels in a sensor, then, will the 200mp images be more detailed then a 24mp cmos sensor or is it just a lie?

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                    • Anonymous
                    • 2mA
                    • 21 Sep 2021

                    Sammy : uses 200MP
                    Eye fruit: uses 12 MP

                    Result is not night n day difference, fact is these companies wants us to keep buying and buying. they just dont waana improve on same hardware.

                      It would be great if we have another 200MP sensor but with a native RGB array and oversampling technique. Nokia/Microsoft had shown and proved it before with the PureView algorithm. Just imagine how much true lossless zoom we can get with a vast 200MP resolution, that would be insane!

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                        • Wayne Morellini
                        • 7tm
                        • 21 Sep 2021

                        Going by your article. I'm surprised there is no strictly intra exposure 16 stop HDR techniques mentioned. While I proposed a number of better HDR technique, including back to back different exposure techniques to reduce multiple images to Red and other techniques like noise reduction on pixel around 2007 (extra clear stops of latitude), three exposures might result in staggered smearing/bright spots. Back to back might work. However, one of the methodologies I'm interested in, is two simultaneous gain pickup years before Alexa, which three would be better, and adjusting the gain as you exposed (producing a better version of back to back multi-exposure). But, every little bit extra circuit either gets in the way, produces heat and or produces more noise. However, the 8kp30 limitation is a shock, it should be at least 8kp50 (close to that which can be converted using standard technique to 8kp60).

                        But, I heard 16k, which is what the VR industry needs, as 8k converts to around 2.66k on 60 degree of view at 180 degree, and around 1.33k per 60 degree at 360 degree, below the 2k lower end, and both below the more optimal 4k of view (which good vision can see). 16k on a phone would be good for this, though requiring usb3.1 recording to a SSD, which is very acceptable, if you going do 16K VR/action sports recording. This is of limited next generation value, and even for massive stills, a reduced colour filter resolution (Quad or 4x4) is not advisable. It's not quite the next generation thing yet, after we been waiting for the release of 240mp chip for at least three to four years. Hopefully Samsung can go at least to true 8kp50 soon, which is useful for 180 degree action cameras. Being able to race with that, and take 16k stills before and after of the course and groups of people is useful. Something the cineform guy at GoPro could advocate.

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                          • AnonD-1018819
                          • M}3
                          • 21 Sep 2021

                          LG Superfan, 21 Sep 2021I agree if it doesn't have high quality digital zoom i... moreWhen image is large enough you just crop. There is no point in upscaling it again.

                            AnonD-1018819, 21 Sep 2021Only reason I'd want such massive sensor is to have lo... moreI agree if it doesn't have high quality digital zoom it's useless but so far only Huawei and Realme have been able to give high quality digital zoom others just crop and upscale

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                              • AnonD-762416
                              • Sec
                              • 21 Sep 2021

                              AnonD-1018819, 21 Sep 2021If pixels are big enough you don't need trillions of t... moreSure. But these are smartphones, not the hubble telescope. Samsung or Sony mass produces more of these phone sensors in an hour than people buys full size cameras in a decade. So, something has to give, which obviously is the average quality. The way to fix that in a uniform way is to find simple solutions like maths. We've been doing the same on computers for decades. If you have excess graphics power you can enable super sampling which works on the same principle to hide rendering issues by rendering four times as many pixels as you can see on your display.

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                                • AnonD-1018819
                                • M}3
                                • 21 Sep 2021

                                AnonD-762416, 21 Sep 2021It's not for zooming. That wouldn't be a good use... moreIf pixels are big enough you don't need trillions of them and then combining them. You just have those "few" with no need to combine them.

                                  MEH!

                                    I don't believe this video explanations pixels can't change color perception on demand. But I appreciate sensors becoming bigger.

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                                      • AnonD-762416
                                      • Sec
                                      • 21 Sep 2021

                                      AnonD-1018819, 21 Sep 2021Only reason I'd want such massive sensor is to have lo... moreIt's not for zooming. That wouldn't be a good use for this. It's for fixing common sub-pixel issues we get on smartphones. Those issues are very easy to spot if you make a side-by-side comparison with a big DSLR-type camera. Before binning, phones used all sorts of "AI" (read, guessing) to fix quality issues on these miniaturized cameras. With binning it can use maths to find the most likely exposure level for each pixel on your photo.

                                        Quad 200mp with right processing is bound to look good. 8K should be sharper with enough pixels unlike current quad/nona sensors as opposed to 40mp with standard bayer.

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