Apple uses three new Sony camera sensors in the iPhone 13 Pro Max

27 September 2021
All three cameras got improved, the ToF and the front-facing camera remain the same as the predecessor.

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Anonymous, 27 Sep 2021Vivo also has mastered a way to get rid of lens flare aroun... moreThey both handle flares well but for some reason have really awful lens quality too, which is unfortunate.

  • Anonymous

Polish Power , 27 Sep 2021The Ultrawide as usual is garbage in low light. Apple nee... moreVivo also has mastered a way to get rid of lens flare around light sources using zeiss coating.
The one on xperia smartphones is a gimmick as the images don't show any improvements despite the zeiss coating.

  • Anonymous

Polish Power , 27 Sep 2021The Ultrawide as usual is garbage in low light. Apple nee... moreI think you can't recommend Apple or Samsung if you want the best camera out there.
This is also confirmed by sites like DxOMark.

Chinese brands are excelling in the photography department whether it is flagship segment or mid range segment.

Huawei, Mi, Vivo hold the top 3 spot for best camera on a smartphone this year.

AnonD-1018819, 27 Sep 2021No, Apple's ProRaw is RAW+processing information in a ... moreProRaw is demosaiced, plus it has sharpening and noise reduction already baked into the file. It still captures a very wide range of light with excellent tonality so definitely good for manual editing, but it's more of an "average-consumer-friendly" feature rather than an enthusiast-oriented one like Google's HDR+ RAW, which is completely free of post-processing.

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 27 Sep 2021How cute... The Pot calling the Kettle back What English is that 😂

  • Anonymous

[deleted post]How cute... The Pot calling the Kettle back

  • Anonymous

Polish Power , 27 Sep 2021The Ultrawide as usual is garbage in low light. Apple nee... moreI.B.I.S is more effective when there is more space for the movement.
Tiny phone module will never be enough proportionally compared to 📷.
The 📷 with better I.B.I.S are ones with larger body.

Vivo does not use gimbal for main camera. You should not compare both phones.

  • AnonD-1018819

LG Superfan, 27 Sep 2021Apple's ProRaw isn't true Raw it does some proces... moreNo, Apple's ProRaw is RAW+processing information in a single file. You can de-laminate the effects from the RAW image and use them as you see fit. You can use it all or you can use none of it and work with just the raw image data. Or you can even use just a certain segment of it that you might want.

With regular RAW you just have a raw sensor dump and anything you do to it is done after the fact without any context to the actual scene that was shot at the time. ProRAW offers the same, but also gives you context for the scene on in the moment shot was made.

  • Anonymous

Shanti Dope, 27 Sep 2021Sony's mobile cameras are derived from their Alpha lin... more"Sony's mobile cameras are derived from their Alpha lineup, and so they behave and produce images similar to an Alpha camera."

Stopped reading after that joke

  • Polish Power

The Ultrawide as usual is garbage in low light.
Apple need to spend more money on bigger sensors, they need to stop being cheap.

The IBIS is gimmick at best because it's getting outperformed two years in a row by cameras that lack IBIS.
Vivo is the one who has implemented gimbal stabilization perfectly on their phones.


  • Anonymous

Shanti Dope, 27 Sep 2021Sony's mobile cameras are derived from their Alpha lin... moreLol, are you the same guy who was saying something stupid like professional photographers don't use HDR? Anywayy, I'm having hard time to hold back my laugh seeing you acting like Sony's processing is natural. If you're shooting with Xperia during the day you will always end up getting extremely pixelated edges and oversharpening artifacts. The fun part is that their processing is so bad that 2x zoom on Xperia 5 Mark 2 is comparable to Mark 3's 2.9x zoom in quality. Hilarious!

http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/24357_CameraupgradeSonyXperia5iiivsl.php

  • Azlan

I thought the apple was making their own camera sensors.

  • Anonymous

Gladly is not isocell.
Otherwise cameras would be smaller than last generation.

GW3 is 64MP 1/2" , while GW1/GW2 are 1/1.76".
GN5 is 1/1.56" , while GN1 is 1/1.31" and GN2 1/1.12".
HM2 is 1/1.52" while HM1 is 1/1.33".

  • Anonymous

LG Superfan, 27 Sep 2021Apple's ProRaw isn't true Raw it does some proces... moreI have seen raw samples from iphone 12 pro.

- completely different from jpeg. The jpeg is heavily "edited".
- no HDR applied to raw like jpeg.

AnonD-1016461, 27 Sep 2021NooOoOO Apple is using old technologies and they sell every... moreThese sensors are very different than ones used in iPhone X these are much better ones

Shanti Dope, 27 Sep 2021Multi-frame image stacking and saturation boost already mak... moreApple's ProRaw isn't true Raw it does some processing not as much as Jpeg but still some processing is done

AnonD-1016461, 27 Sep 2021Never heard someone to say apple images are overprocessed a... moreAlmost every phone has overprocessed images cause that's what the users prefer, majority of those taking pics with their phones aren't photographers so that's why they prefer oversaturated boosted colors over natural ones cuase it look better on social media, natural colors looks dull to many

  • Freak7427

LOL

fugk those 12MP 4:3 boxy image sensors, and a double fugk for the 1micron pixel sized UW and Tele sensors

  • Anonymous

What's bad is the effective diameter of the 77mm camera.
The 52mm has 3.0mm, the 65mm has 3.41mm and the 77mm has 3.21mm. Usually, smartphone tele lenses have an effective diameter that is at least as large as the main camera. So I guess they reduced costs here. The Xiaomi Mi Note 10 tele (not periscope) has 4.37mm.
So in low light conditions it would have been better if they just increased the megapixel count of the 65mm camera. 65mm + more megapixels would have been also better for portraits.