Google Pixel 6 Pro camera module may not be user-replaceable
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- 16 Oct 2021
YWE, 16 Oct 2021Not buy when a product or design isn't satisfying, it ... moreHow dense can you be?
What you don't understand about "NO OTHER CHOICES AVAILABLE"?
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- 16 Oct 2021
[deleted post]Not buy when a product or design isn't satisfying, it just makes sense.
You seem like a typical emotional person who quickly disrespects and believes that he can change something with off topic dramas.
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- 16 Oct 2021
AnonD-909757, 13 Oct 2021Yeah, but the majority should never destroy minorities when... moreSeriously... Minorities vs majority ?
Let the unhappy minorities buy another brand so.
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- 14 Oct 2021
It is possible that what is happening here is that calibration for individual cameras is done in some way at the factory and the results stored in ROM. This would mean that changing the camera would affect calibration, which presumably would need a dedicated text fixture and program. If the calibration ROM was included as part of the camera module, it would cost more.
Camera lenses are not identical and camera sensors have not only slight variations across the die but also small defects, hence pixel binning. In the early days of hard drives the same problem existed; manufacturers would mark the discs to identify bad sectors, and any attempt to format them without the special manufacturer tools would result in a disc which would throw random errors.
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- 14 Oct 2021
Anonymous, 13 Oct 2021Exactly. Cheers fellow Lithuanian.Cheers amigo!
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- 14 Oct 2021
Google got one thing right! Arranging the cameras horizontally like that, will prevent the phone from wobbling when you put it on a table! Did you hear that, Samsung?
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- 13 Oct 2021
AngryLithuanian, 13 Oct 2021You're right, I don't defend none of these compan... moreYeah, but the majority should never destroy minorities when it doesn't do anything negative to the majority.
If it was more expensive or other to make a non-unrepairable phone, sure, but it probably cost more to prevent the phone to be repairable.
The issue is also that those trends quickly spread to other components, and before you know it, nothing is repairable anymore, like Apple.
It happened to modern laptops, keep in mind that making something harder to repair also mean harder to build, they do it on purpose, exactly like they put water damage stickers rather than making properly water seals devices for few more dollars or to cover water damage.
Even though respecting the user often pay of more, the obsession of instant money always win.
There is no legitimacy in "the many don't do that, so the few should be totally ignored about this issue that could be solved, or not created".
Those kinds of minority damages should only been done when there is a massive positive aspect for another minority or the majority.
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- 13 Oct 2021
beautiful., 13 Oct 2021"this is nowhere near acceptable."
what are yo... moreHow is the sentence "The issue is that they aren't any diversity, there is literally no choices" too hard to understand?
Go ahead, show me the options I have, show me what else than Sony which is expensive and gaming smartphones which have crappy camera I have to buy.
Give me a SINGLE 2021 alternative to the Poco F2 Pro, just a SINGLE one.
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- 13 Oct 2021
AnonD-909757, 13 Oct 2021It is minor, until it become mainstream.
Don't forget... moreYou're right, I don't defend none of these companies, we all know they do dodgy shiz.
Just this specific thing didn't seem like a big deal to me.
Never in my life I needed to replace a camera module on any of my phones, something else breaks sooner than it. And I think it's safe to say that majority of consumers replace their phones and buy new ones for smaller issues than a broken camera.
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- 13 Oct 2021
AnonD-909757, 13 Oct 2021If the punch hole/notch and the curved edges on the high-en... more"this is nowhere near acceptable."
what are you even talking about it, don't like it don't buy it.
No one is forcing me to go watch Marvel movies even if they are mainstream, or buy one car over another.
Brands and such do what they want and what works. People buy tons of Samsung, Huawei, OnePlus, Oppo and Xiaomi phones with curved screens. Flat and curved exist, choose your own instead of forcing you "ideal" opinion on others. You are entitled to your opinion, but no other people or brand, or company is bound or obligated to yours.
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- 13 Oct 2021
AngryLithuanian, 13 Oct 2021And how many people who will buy this phone will actually d... moreIt is minor, until it become mainstream.
Don't forget that the main rule of the smartphone market is :
The worse it is, the more/better it will spread.
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- 13 Oct 2021
Anonymous, 13 Oct 2021I can agree only with lack of 3.5mm Jack.If the punch hole/notch and the curved edges on the high-end devices were not systematic but rather one of multiple available options, I wouldn't care about those.
The issue is that they aren't any diversity, there is literally no choices beside Sony and gaming phones to get away from those, this is nowhere near acceptable.
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- 13 Oct 2021
European commission is smiling... These NA brands are becoming completely anti democratic. (next step - stop buying them)
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- 13 Oct 2021
AngryLithuanian, 13 Oct 2021And how many people who will buy this phone will actually d... moreExactly.
Cheers fellow Lithuanian.
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- 13 Oct 2021
And how many people who will buy this phone will actually do this? Or ever did? C'mon this is irrelevant to an average consumer. Planned obsolescence is bad but this particular thing is minor.
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- 13 Oct 2021
Anonymous, 13 Oct 2021I can agree only with lack of 3.5mm Jack.Its 2021. Who needs a headphone jack? BT and/or and adaptor. The days of headphone jack are way behind you.
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- 13 Oct 2021
idk if this is supposed to be surprising or not, do people actually replace the cameras on their phones themselves, or is GSMArena having a slow news day or something?
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- 13 Oct 2021
These companies are evil, they dont care about envoirnment or anything else than profts. Selling Apple care, google care maybe? locking out components to be repaired will create more ewaste, who care as long as one can sell a new phone as repair costs much more! or even using an original product
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- 13 Oct 2021
Razr 5G Fan, 13 Oct 2021Google is no longer the Google I used to love. They're... moreWhat ever you run it's going to run on Google OS
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- 13 Oct 2021
They try to insert themselves as middlemen, even when it is not required. Why do they have to give their "software blessing" to an arrangement between a repair person and a consumer?
Want to replace a faulty camera? Oh, come to OUR store. Only we can pair it with your phone in our super secret lab. A charging port went bad? Come to OUR store so we fix that overpriced phone that you think you own, but just leased from us.
Oh, screen replacement? It is just $100 short of a new device... just buy a new one and be the little sheep that we want you to be. It's not greed.... not at all, it's because our screens are very complex technology that only we can fix... but just in case we go out of our way to booby trap the components so independent repair becomes high risk, technically unfeasible or outright impossible.
They block their suppliers from selling the components to any third party, thus creating an artificially expensive repair market. Or nudge you towards "Just buy a new one". Gotta boost that bottom line for our shareholders. Let alone the piles and piles of e-waste that the throwaway mentality produces.
The new trend to eliminate the 3.5mm jack is bogus as well. Regular wired headphones have no electronics, they consist of wires, small magnets and membranes, which are infinitely easier to recycle than bluetooth earbuds (bluetooth antenna, batteries, small board to process the signal) should they go bad. And way cheaper too. How convenient... we just took away that pesky 3.5mm port so we can sell you our $100+ wireless headphones that by sheer coincidence we recently started to market.