Snapdragon 898 and Dimensity 2000 specs revealed

20 October 2021
The Dimensity will likely have a higher clock on its Cortex-A710 cores.

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  • Tyfyh
  • MD@
  • 21 Oct 2021

I'm all hands up for the competition. This will stimulate progress.
Huge props to Mediatek. For me they always produced low-middle rate socs. But it this news is true, Dimensity2000 will beat Snapdragon898.
I really don't understand why SD would switch from TSMC to Samsung since TSMC > Samsung. And if you want to be the top dog with the bestest soc, you should get the best resource.
I will definitely keep my eye on D2000.

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    • Anonymous
    • nYE
    • 21 Oct 2021

    AnonD-1014095, 21 Oct 2021Passive cooling is cheap junk. Look at Sony 1ii Pro, double... moreI just said passive cooling is not enough and you call me out to use my brain.

    Kinda rude...

      hopefully the Adreno 730 are new design, instead of simply process node upgrade like Adreno 660 (which is the same design as Adreno 650)

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        • Tyfyh
        • MD@
        • 21 Oct 2021

        Str, 20 Oct 2021Good to see competition here. For the time being mediatek w... moreI was going to say "My thoughts exactly" but then I saw your next sentence about 898+ and 3nm. "plus" version always comes only with higher clock speed and not different process. Where did you even hear about 3nm? No fabs has even claimed yet that they are going to start massproduction of 3nm wafers.

          AnonD-1014095, 20 Oct 2021The G78 mp24 blows the s888 out off water, no phone manufac... more🤣even 865's adreno 650 can beat Mali G78 go cry.

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            • Anonymous
            • thw
            • 21 Oct 2021

            It's just don't make sense putting 8 in the third row for Snapdragon number. So there will be no more 0 after this. Everything end up with 8. Make sense with 888 not with others.

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              • Lehiradeo
              • rJm
              • 21 Oct 2021

              4nm is enough to evaluate the processor

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                • AnonD-1014095
                • mXK
                • 21 Oct 2021

                Anonymous, 21 Oct 2021That's not enough anymore, for how compact smartphones... moreThe s888 will blow your @,rise out, with 12watts too power it. That's pure brutal power and torque, the s888 reaches 50% till throttling begins.
                I have S21ultra with Custom Rom and kernels and I get no throttling even at 42 degrees heat because the threshold and current voltage has been altered. Don't talk nonsense what you don't know kid. Learn before you lost your nonsense

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                  • AnonD-1014095
                  • mXK
                  • 21 Oct 2021

                  Anonymous, 21 Oct 2021That's not enough anymore, for how compact smartphones... morePassive cooling is cheap junk. Look at Sony 1ii Pro, double Chambers copper cooling with 8 antenna and dual 5g mm wave . That's expensive, tell the phone manufacturers to use the materials. And use your brain. If you have any. Common sense. Look at highend PC and laptops use double copper cooling Chambers. Passive cheap junk trash.

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                    • Anonymous
                    • Re2
                    • 21 Oct 2021

                    [deleted post]iPhone is not a company and no it won't. Sd 888 can even beat a13 bionic. Especially with too much throttling.

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                      • Anonymous
                      • nYE
                      • 21 Oct 2021

                      AnonD-1014095, 20 Oct 2021Muppet the S888 will blow your brains out at 11 watts off t... moreThat's not enough anymore, for how compact smartphones are passive cooling is not enough for what Qualcomm did to this chip...

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                        • Anonymous
                        • 7X1
                        • 21 Oct 2021

                        Not samsung again! Going for a Dimensity 2000 phone instead next year!

                          Samscomm, 20 Oct 2021Nice another pocket toaster from Samsung, hasn't Qualc... moreBecause it's pretty much impossible to get a fab from TSMC in 2021. TSMC has been hit harder than Samsung in the chip shortage: as such Qualcomm has to get it fab'd? at Samsung if they want to have even remotely enough stock.

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                            • AnonD-731363
                            • Lfw
                            • 21 Oct 2021

                            T the Tinkerer, 20 Oct 2021Because those performance and efficiency ratings are theore... moreWell i agree with you my friend.
                            P1 and P2 by Lenovo were outstanding phones of that time.
                            I am proud owner of Mi 11 lite 5G and if i dont play games my phone can easily last 2-3 days on normal use.
                            Before i had my Moto X4 since release date with its 3000 mAh and SD630 which in 2017 was good. When i was using it like any other battery could last 2 to 3 days on heavy gaming it lasted 10 hours as a brand new and after 3,5 year only 2 hours.
                            THats huge difference.
                            But as i said i am heavy gamer when i have nothing to do in my work and 12 hours long shifts i play game like Clash of lords 2 which i play since 2015 when i had my Lenovo Vibeshot which also lasted 8 hours when gaming brand new and after 24 months it was still good 3 hours.
                            Nowdays best endurance phone money can buy is Oukitel WP15 for 300 bucks.
                            Even on heavy gaming can last more than a day. And on normal use 10 days like nothing.

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                              • AnonD-731363
                              • Lfw
                              • 20 Oct 2021

                              BigDisplay, 20 Oct 2021Lol, and noone mention this at all. If you don't menti... moreBut it exist and its curious conclusion.
                              Its no accident.
                              Old phones were great.
                              Even M51 by Samsung with 7000 mAh dont have this endurance.

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                                • AnonD-731363
                                • Lfw
                                • 20 Oct 2021

                                GTRagnarok, 20 Oct 2021More efficient at the same performance level. But performan... moreMan those phones were capable to run any app of that time and era very smoothly new phones does same thing.
                                So whats the problem???

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                                  • AnonD-731363
                                  • Lfw
                                  • 20 Oct 2021

                                  SOMAYU, 20 Oct 2021Those lenovos have older, entry-level silicon and bigger th... moreMan maybe but still in any phone brightess can be set up from really low to really high it doesnt matter.
                                  And i dont believe that 60 refresh rate or 120 will make such abig difference.

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                                    • AnonD-731363
                                    • Lfw
                                    • 20 Oct 2021

                                    YUKI93, 20 Oct 2021You can't really compare a phone made during the Marsh... moreMan android is android nothing else matters is the same thing.
                                    Few improvements went better but the basic is likely same.

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • 08B
                                      • 20 Oct 2021

                                      Anonymous, 20 Oct 2021You claim qualcomm has monopoly but do not show any evidenc... moreIt's not that simple...
                                      You've got some standard essential patents (SEP) Qualcomm has, like part of CDMA or LTE technologies...
                                      It's impossible to build a phone without these patents.
                                      It's not monopoly but a kind of market control.

                                      Qualcomm refused to licence competitors (as it is essential, it's anticompetitive)
                                      Qualcomm licences to OEM instead and charge the whole device (including things that have nothing to do with their patents like screen or storage), and give cashback when OEM choose Snapdragon.
                                      It's not Fair Reasonable And Non Discriminatory (FRAND).
                                      High benefits (600%) on licences OEM are forced to get.
                                      Reduced benefits (15%) on soc itself (and even sometime 0%, case of nvidia's eviction according to European courthouse)
                                      With this behavior, Qualcomm managed to kick :
                                      - Intel
                                      - NVIDIA
                                      - Texas Instruments
                                      - ST-Microelectronics
                                      - VIA
                                      - LG (born dead NUCLUN)
                                      That's not tiny companies...they're not developping in their garage!
                                      This is facts.

                                      This lead to many courthouses decisions in many countries.
                                      I think the U-Turn was Nothern District of California's decision...
                                      Even if Ninth Circuit canceled it (probably to save Qualcomm from damage and interests...and bankrupcy)
                                      Qualcomm felt the danger...behavior changed. Saved one tome, maybe not two!
                                      This is only an opinion.

                                      You will tell me there are others :
                                      - Apple...there's no competition, both devices and soc are from Apple (and we can discuss about Intel's MoDem...)
                                      - Exynos and Samsung...it's the same
                                      - Kirin and Huawei...it's the same
                                      These 3 aren't competitors (now 4 with Google and Tensor)
                                      The 2 real competitors are :
                                      - Unisoc (Spreadtrum)...probably receive some help from chinese authorities...plus Chinese justice divide by 2 Qualcomm's fees on chinese devices built for chinese market
                                      - ...and Mediatek (taiwanese), saved by their position in TV/DVD/Blu-ray... And entry-level devices less charged by fees...and by chinese devices built for chinese market.

                                      As Qualcomm's behavior changed, Mediatek slowly propose higher-end and we start seeing Dimensity 1200 in Europe!...previous high-end were commercial (but not technical) disasters (Helio X30 and mt6595)

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                                        • Samscomm
                                        • N5m
                                        • 20 Oct 2021

                                        Nice another pocket toaster from Samsung, hasn't Qualcomm learned from the 888 heating issues? why not choosing TSMC?

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