Sony teaser describes upcoming Xperia as a camera attached to a phone

21 October 2021
It will have a physical shutter button and will apparently excel in taking photos and videos.

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  • Rakesh
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  • 22 Oct 2021

Oh wow. Dedicated camera button. Hello i use volume up. Such a game changer! Just wow

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    • Anonymous
    • 8Kf
    • 22 Oct 2021

    SuuperBaka, 22 Oct 2021I probably should've worded it as "A1 like featur... moreIt is not about other components. Except the 8K video, all A1 skills are related to the extreme fast sensor.

    Xperia does 20fps with 60 AF/AE , like A9ii.
    A1 does 30fps with 120 AF/AE, despite 50MP vs 24 MP (A9ii) vs 12MP (1iii).

    While the 44mm2 sensor of Xperia is "scanned" in 10ms, the FF sensor (over 800mm2) of A1 is "scanned" in less than 5ms.

    Sensor about 20x larger turns all light into info in less than half time compared to phone.
    A1 is best sensor tech sony has now.
    Mobile version would be very expensive, no OEM would ever pay.
    Sony Semicon does not give better price to Sony Electronics. No discount for being from the sony family.

    Besides S-log 3 and eye AF for video, I do not think there are other stuff they can port to xperia now.
    I do not even know with Snapdragon has support for S-log.

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      • Anonymous
      • X}Q
      • 22 Oct 2021

      Sony take on Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom?

        Anonymous, 22 Oct 2021Despite being just 12MP 1/1.67", imx557 still has les... moreI probably should've worded it as "A1 like features", obviously nothing on a phone can do what it can, but something close to it. If it's a single camera, then it's got space for components that can help

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          • Anonymous
          • XMr
          • 22 Oct 2021

          JG01, 21 Oct 2021If it has Facebook, WhatsApp or any other bloatware apps an... moredont buy a phone...... no one forcing you

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            • Anonymous
            • 8Kf
            • 22 Oct 2021

            https://androidnext.info/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/202004021254-1200x742.jpg

            The device might be something like this.

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              • Anonymous
              • 8Kf
              • 22 Oct 2021

              Anonymous, 22 Oct 2021Sounds like an upcoming Mk2 successor of the Xperia Pro. Bu... moreIt is not Pro 2.
              100% sure.

              This is global launch.
              Pro will never be at that price.
              This is something else.

              Maybe new " Z Ultra".

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                • Anonymous
                • 8Kf
                • 22 Oct 2021

                SuuperBaka, 22 Oct 2021I wonder if it's gonna have some A1 features or their ... moreDespite being just 12MP 1/1.67", imx557 still has less than 40% of the speed seen from Sensor inside A1.
                Copy of A1 sensor requires lots of DRAM and strongest ADC. It is almost as fast as global shutter sensor.

                No mobile sensor (not even imx400 from XZP , which is faster than 557) is capable of 30fps while doing 120 AE/AF (adjust both 4x per frame) like A1.

                Faster readout is great for AF and rolling shutter. But sacrifices bit of DR and performance at higher ISO.
                For example A9 and A7iii both are 24MP. A7iii has higher DR and high iso skills. But A9 is perfect for sports, something way out of A7iii reach.

                I have no idea if this new phone has imx506 like Sharp R6 or something else new. I know people at sony, but obviously none is gonna talk.

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                  • Anonymous
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                  • 22 Oct 2021

                  Sounds like an upcoming Mk2 successor of the Xperia Pro. But iirc, the Xperia Pro shares the same camera hardware as the Mk2 Xperia 1 and Xperia 5, so I wouldn't hold my breath about those claims.

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                    • Anonymous
                    • 8Kf
                    • 22 Oct 2021

                    Anonymous, 22 Oct 2021Those who bought mi 11 ultra. Also doubt the title. Xper... morePeople that work on the alpha cameras also work on the phone and according to you they do not know how to do it.

                      Anonymous, 22 Oct 2021I was told 13 Pro Max 128GB is over $1800 in Brasil. Xp... moreBrazil has even higher imported foreign brand taxation than Mainland china, I heard that that Playstation 4 was selling in Brazil for US$1850, but when sony initiated brazilian made ps4 in 2015, the price was down to US$600.

                      Thus, the same for xperia and iphones as they are not made in Brazil

                        I wonder if it's gonna have some A1 features or their newer camera features.

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                          • Anonymous
                          • 6jr
                          • 22 Oct 2021

                          Nicer, 21 Oct 2021And who is gonna waste 1000 or more on phone for its camera... moreThose who bought mi 11 ultra.

                          Also doubt the title. Xperia phones are notoriously bad at taking photos. Sony have just never figured out how to make camera phones.

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                            • Anonymous
                            • 8Kf
                            • 22 Oct 2021

                            imparanoic, 22 Oct 2021In Hong Kong Xperia 1iii 256gb at HK$7500, Xperia 5iii a... moreI was told 13 Pro Max 128GB is over $1800 in Brasil.

                            Xperia has similar prices across all markets. While Samsung and Apple charge much more in 3rd World nations much higher prices compared to USA.

                            It is bizarre the fact their stuff cost more in these places where less % of people can afford them.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • 8Kf
                              • 22 Oct 2021

                              steelcore, 22 Oct 2021Nooooo.... Please... I need a normal phone that isn'... more1iii is same width as Z5.

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                                • Anonymous
                                • 8Kf
                                • 22 Oct 2021

                                Anonymous, 22 Oct 2021Dude, do you know what are the different between DSLR and a... moreDSLR means Digital Single Lens Reflex ..

                                Reflex = mirror

                                Mirrorless is not DSLR.

                                People (who knows why) uses the word DSLR to refer ro Pro Camera when even a 1/2.3" sensor camera can be DSLR.

                                  Anonymous, 21 Oct 2021Checking the prices. Eprice Taiwan (news website) show ... moreIn Hong Kong

                                  Xperia 1iii 256gb at HK$7500, Xperia 5iii at same price,

                                  Iphone 13 Max Pro 256gb at HK$11500, iphone 13 Pro at HK$9500

                                    Anonymous, 22 Oct 2021Dude, do you know what are the different between DSLR and a... morenot really an issue with interchangable batteries, both DSLR and Mirrorless has advantages and disadvantages, but it seems full framed mirrorless are eating away significantly dslr market share apart from professional and prosumer market

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                                      • steelcore
                                      • jQa
                                      • 22 Oct 2021

                                      Nooooo.... Please... I need a normal phone that isn't so narrow I can't read a web page. Seriously Sony! Make a good normal phone.

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • YUU
                                        • 22 Oct 2021

                                        Marco M, 21 Oct 2021DSLR is dead, especially for consumers. Only for those who ... moreDude, do you know what are the different between DSLR and a Mirrorless (DSLR)?? Both camera are DSLR and mirrorless battery life is not so great compared to regular DSLR 🤦🏻‍♂️