Weekly poll results: the Sony Xperia Pro-I is well received, but not everyone needs a professional phone
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- TheLastOracle
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- 12 Nov 2021
Anonymous, 12 Nov 2021Where did it cut corners and where was it compromised? I wo... moreSmaller sensors will always have faster native readout speeds, easier to work with regarding stabilization (OIS, IBIS etc), have lesser heat dissipation issues, and less rolling shutter. Plus cost per sensor would also be less, except the fact that this is an older sensor, and circuitry has probably been reworked for its various readout speeds and lower pixel count. The latger pixel size is great. But, that's perhaps its main advantage, which could have been replicated with a smaller sensor, with a lot more features. I wouldn't be surprised if 40% of the area of this sensor is a Dummy Area, only holding circuity and no actual imaging pixels. It could probably hold DRAM, which I doubt, to be honest. Would love to see this camera and its sensor being taken apart, by some reviewers or testers. The secrets of it, would be pretty curious.
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- Anonymous
- IJK
- 12 Nov 2021
Anonymous, 12 Nov 2021Where did it cut corners and where was it compromised? I wo... moreSony speediest your allegiance.
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- Anonymous
- LHe
- 12 Nov 2021
TheLastOracle, 11 Nov 2021I agree. I personally feel the sensor size is a poor choice... moreWhere did it cut corners and where was it compromised? I would reallly want to know. It uses close to 70% of the sensor area, it has ridiculous speed for the sensor and pixel size and due to smaller usage of the sensor surface it's probably a lot more efficient at dispensing heat. There is zero reason why Sony would make another sensor to have the properties of this sensor but in smaller footprint.
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- TheLastOracle
- vG1
- 11 Nov 2021
Nick Tegrataker, 08 Nov 2021This is most likely due to the fact that they couldn't... moreGood reasoning. Sony actually missed an opportunity to create a smartphone sensor to Rule Them All. And, an unnecessarily expensive smartphone. It has a great screen, and a few other things. But, the cameras on board could be better.
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- TheLastOracle
- vG1
- 11 Nov 2021
Anonymous, 07 Nov 2021It's marketing, most people won't know that 33% o... moreI agree. I personally feel the sensor size is a poor choice, and it compromised things and cuts corners, where it shiuldnt. Plus it also inflates prices substantially, especially considering the limited zoom range on the other cameras onboard.
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- Anonymous
- rN7
- 11 Nov 2021
i0S.- Never.- Again, 11 Nov 2021I do have a mirroless, don't need it these days. Ar... moreIn some ways the computational photography has also made them worse compared to phones from a few years ago
- i0S.- Never.- Again
- gqm
- 11 Nov 2021
Nick Tegrataker, 08 Nov 2021"My mirroless camera is collecting dust since the past... moreI do have a mirroless, don't need it these days.
Around three years back, the standard camera sensor size on smartphones was 1/2.55". Computational photography was still not polished enough.
A mirrorless camera would offer significant advantages over images out of smartphones.
Sure images needed some editing, but it was worth it. Hence, I used to carry around my dslr/mirrorless camera on vacations.
The sensor size has tripled in terms of area compared to last three years.
The auto-focusing tech along with other under the hood tech improvements, combined with the most important leap in evolution (computational photography) is giving images that are enough for most people unless you are a professional clicking pictures for professional use.
In the last two years, I've used a phone with 1/1.4" sensors and my current phone with 1/1.12" sensor. The computational photography has done wonders to the images compared to that out of smartphone cameras from 4-5 years back.
On top of that we have high quality Ultrawide and zoom lenses. Great video recording, ability to easily share or edit on smartphones itself, etc.
Recently I went on vacation, the MI 11 Ultra did all that I wanted it to...in terms of my photo/video needs with the added bonus of no lengthy editing required.
A mirrorless would have helped me in hardly 10% of niche scenarios which I don't care for as it goes into professional territory.
Now tell me why should I use a mirrorless?? why should I carry around different lenses?
I am not clicking images for professional purposes. I could extract a few percentage more quality after long editing....but it's not worth my time.
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- Anonymous
- IJK
- 10 Nov 2021
SuuperBaka, 09 Nov 2021"You clearly don't. You're just showing you ... moreYou're right. It's not thinking that which makes it true. It's the fact that it's true that makes it true........duh?
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- Anonymous
- IJK
- 10 Nov 2021
SuuperBaka, 09 Nov 2021"They have a few extra whistles. Not a lot more freedo... moreAgain.... the same could be said for any competing phone. Depending on the user. No dip. But the actual output quality possible is nothing special.
My gosh you are terrible at grasping that
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- Anonymous
- IJK
- 10 Nov 2021
SuuperBaka, 09 Nov 2021I definitely do, that's not debatable.
You're... more😂😂😂😂😂😂
We definitely needed such tall tale comic relief. Thanks for that.
- SuuperBaka
- q}I
- 09 Nov 2021
Anonymous, 09 Nov 2021You clearly don't. You're just showing you are an... more"You clearly don't. You're just showing you are another one of the Sony blind followers here."
No, I actually do know what I'm talking about. Again just because you think I don't, doesn't make it true.
- SuuperBaka
- q}I
- 09 Nov 2021
Anonymous, 09 Nov 2021They have a few extra whistles. Not a lot more freedom. And... more"They have a few extra whistles. Not a lot more freedom. And the results are at best equal. That's it."
They have more freedom and more features in manual mode. The results can be superior, equal, or inferior depending on the user.
They provide the experience of using a camera but on your phone, that's how they do it.
- SuuperBaka
- q}I
- 09 Nov 2021
Anonymous, 09 Nov 2021Clearly notI definitely do, that's not debatable.
You're opinion = wrong
My answer = fact
:)
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- Anonymous
- IJK
- 09 Nov 2021
SuuperBaka, 09 Nov 2021"They forget basic things like... other phones with bi... moreYou clearly don't. You're just showing you are another one of the Sony blind followers here.
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- Anonymous
- IJK
- 09 Nov 2021
SuuperBaka, 09 Nov 2021They have a lot more freedom in manual mode and actually do... moreThey have a few extra whistles. Not a lot more freedom. And the results are at best equal. That's it.
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- Anonymous
- IJK
- 09 Nov 2021
SuuperBaka, 09 Nov 2021The difference is that I know what it means. So I am fine w... moreClearly not
- SuuperBaka
- q}I
- 09 Nov 2021
ABF Media, 09 Nov 2021These guys just keep repeating marketing material out of So... more"They forget basic things like... other phones with big sensor give better results than Sony in auto mode as well as manual mode."
I know how sensor size works, don't go claiming things that are false.
- SuuperBaka
- q}I
- 09 Nov 2021
Anonymous, 09 Nov 2021No. They have a few extra whistles to their manual mode. Th... moreThey have a lot more freedom in manual mode and actually do produce better results. How about you go on a photographer's channel and see a comparison.
GSMarena isn't the only website you can use to look at samples.
- SuuperBaka
- q}I
- 09 Nov 2021
Anonymous, 09 Nov 2021Yet here you are doing exactly that endlessly. The difference is that I know what it means. So I am fine with using the term. Please don't go projecting yourself
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- ABF Media
- LT3
- 09 Nov 2021
Anonymous, 09 Nov 2021No. They have a few extra whistles to their manual mode. Th... moreThese guys just keep repeating marketing material out of Sony manuals.
They forget basic things like... other phones with big sensor give better results than Sony in auto mode as well as manual mode.