Nikkei: Apple to use self-developed iPhone modems from 2023

24 November 2021
Supposedly based on TSMC’s 4nm process.

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  • 03 Dec 2021

Anonymous, 03 Dec 2021 What is the purposes of those links?? Still no proof of r... moreIn real world, heat produced is same while iPhone subjected to that heat for longer which means iPhone will degrade faster.
All the proof has been given by others to this trolll but he refuses to acknowledge it

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    • 03 Dec 2021

    HaterzSuckkkkk, 03 Dec 2021fearmongering? Ok, so you're claiming that xiaomi h... more
    What is the purposes of those links?? Still no proof of real world battery degradation or excess heat produced that will cause battery degradation

      Anonymous, 03 Dec 2021In red magic 7 thread, you are fearmongering about fast cha... morefearmongering?

      Ok, so you're claiming that xiaomi has such good battery technology that their 120W fast charging battery is 2.5x less prone to degradation than the iPhone.

      And, I kept in mind that higher wattage doesn't equal higher degradation. Keep in mind that the iPhone charges at 23W while the xiaomi charges at 120, which is equal to 5 times the wattage.

      Finally, I know that you're gonna ask me for sources, so here they are:

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2021/10/06/apple-iphone-13-pro-max-battery-charging-massive-upgrade-new-iphone-models/?sh=592cd1ea6019

      https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/15/22675191/xiaomi-11t-pro-lite-120-fast-charging-announced-specs-price

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        HaterzSuckkkkk, 03 Dec 2021Alright then. Show me the links to my comments which do ... moreIn red magic 7 thread, you are fearmongering about fast charging without proof with no real world evidence. You think quora link of some therotical article with no comparison of actual device counts?? Stop embarrassing yourself in every article... Have some self respect

          HaterzSuckkkkk, 03 Dec 2021Like I said, apple may be "inferior" in this depa... moreIt does matter and people are having heavy battery drain on 5g.
          Incomplete half baked implementation has become a signature of ios devices.
          Apple needs to learn from Android how its done

            [deleted post]lol I know that getting external modem from qualcomm is easy.

            Integrating it is something different.

              [deleted post]Alright then.

              Show me the links to my comments which do not have sources.

                [deleted post]Like I said, apple may be "inferior" in this department, but it literally does not matter at all until 2024-ish, which by then, apple will be on their second gen in-house modem that they will integrate.

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                  • 03 Dec 2021

                  [deleted post]This guy claimed 25W fast charging produced five times degradation than 5W charging even though chargung technology is different.
                  As usual no evidence to justify his claims. All this to justify his lower Watt Charging on his favorite brand.
                  And then he wonders why people don't bother taking him seriously or give him prooof.

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                    • 03 Dec 2021

                    HaterzSuckkkkk, 03 Dec 2021LOL yes it is. You made the claim, after all. Why do ... moreYou yourself make baseless claims in other articles... Where is your proof?

                      Anonymous, 03 Dec 2021Tier2 company cheapened out on internal modem That's because it is really hard to integrate a 3rd party modem into a chipset you developed yourself.

                      The only reason that mediatek and qualcomm can do that is because they develop their own modems to integrate.

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                        HaterzSuckkkkk, 03 Dec 2021"5G is the future" You say so? By the time ... moreTier2 company cheapened out on internal modem

                          ABF Media, 03 Dec 2021How often?? Why even put 5g then? Ohhh 5g is future... Ar... more"5G is the future"

                          You say so?

                          By the time 5G mmwave is well developed enough, apple will already have their own modems which have far better efficiency than qualcomm's.

                          mmwave is barely out even as we're approaching 2022.

                          Where's your logic there?

                            ABF Media, 03 Dec 2021You want proof, you go search the Internet, you are the one... moreOh well. That just means you don´t have any sources to prove yourself.

                              HaterzSuckkkkk, 03 Dec 2021LOL yes it is. You made the claim, after all. Why do ... moreYou want proof, you go search the Internet, you are the one skeptical, not me.. not my job to spoon feed you.

                                HaterzSuckkkkk, 03 Dec 2021How often are you going to be encountering 5G mmwave on you... moreHow often?? Why even put 5g then?
                                Ohhh 5g is future... Aren't you apple Boyz going to use it for 5 years, what happened to long support? That's right, another scam.. where hardware is outdated because cheap company couldn't develop internal modem. Other manufacturers don't have this issue. This is why ios remains a niche operating system on smartphones.

                                  ABF Media, 03 Dec 2021And It isn't my job to search sources for you... Bug... moreLOL yes it is.

                                  You made the claim, after all.

                                  Why do I have to prove it?

                                  You make the claim, you give the evidence.

                                  That´s how debate goes.

                                    HaterzSuckkkkk, 03 Dec 2021If you're going to call citing your sources "spoo... moreAnd It isn't my job to search sources for you...
                                    Buggy ios updates have been documented for the past few years. Complaints are all over the place. You are the one, not being able to accept facts, not my problem.

                                      ABF Media, 03 Dec 2021Show me links, give me proof...blah blah blah. A simple sea... moreIf you're going to call citing your sources "spoon feeding", good luck on your school assignments OR in debate.

                                      You're gonna get a 0 instantly because you didn't cite your sources.

                                      It isn't my job to search for sources to prove your argument, that's your job to prove that it's right.

                                      Why would I search for sources to prove the opposing side of the argument?

                                        ABF Media, 03 Dec 2021That Test from mrwhosetheboss is useless as he wasn't ... moreHow often are you going to be encountering 5G mmwave on your phone? Like in 1/100th of your day.

                                        Thus, testing 5G as part of the battery test is useless since you're pretty much never going to use it.

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