Xiaomi 12 Ultra rear panel design revealed

13 December 2021
The 3D model is based on a bunch of cases, spotted earlier.

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Anonymous, 13 Dec 2021Xiaomi had decent hardware designs for a while. It's t... moreBut the iPhone gets regular updates, why is it so buggy then?? Trillion dollar company failing to get their software right, rolling out beta version of software as stable.
1300€ for half baked handicapped experience?? No thank you!!!

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    • 14 Dec 2021

    Anonymous, 14 Dec 2021Doesn't it take power from the phone to drive the litt... moreWat?¿?
    No, a wired earphone consume really little, here is a discution about it :
    https://www.quora.com/How-much-current-do-headphones-typically-draw-from-an-audio-source
    Now here is the Wiki data on Bluetooth normal and LE :
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_Low_Energy#Radio_interface
    The difference is tiny.
    Now, the Bluetooth is CONSTANTLY draining energy to keep the device connected even when no sound is emitted, while speakers only consume when a sound is.
    https://www.androidauthority.com/does-bluetooth-drain-battery-1145853/
    Bluetooth will consume depending on the data rate and distance regardless of the average volume, while earphone will consume depending on the volume (main and average of the sound listened).
    Regardless, in BOTH cases, it is a small consumption.

    But the wired is the more power friendly one, as it doesn't continuously drain power, which make up the difference.
    And we aren't even talking about using your phone to recharge your wireless equipment, which obviously drain a lot more power in such case.

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      • 14 Dec 2021

      Aierlan, 14 Dec 2021It's just an example. I didn't say it was a prob... moreYeah, except that all those "examples" (who are always stated as facts while they are simple personal opinion), said only in a negative way, won't impact perceived popularity?
      Once again : Every market have diversity except smartphone one, no other market focus ONLY on a SINGLE design over and over nor ONLY on stuff that sells the most.

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        • Flario
        • nYx
        • 14 Dec 2021

        Is it me or are these kind of large glass plates are more vulnerable for flares produced by light sources? I have the Ultra 11 and it's really hard to work around lens flares at night.

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          • Anonymous
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          • 14 Dec 2021

          Anonymous, 14 Dec 2021You sound like Samsung's PR when they defended the jac... moreDoesn't it take power from the phone to drive the little speakers in the earbuds / headphones?
          What is the power difference from bluetooth to directly powering drivers?
          Unless the wired option is at a bare minimum volume I would think the bluetooth is the more power friendly choice.

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            • Anonymous
            • fwL
            • 14 Dec 2021

            it doesn't look bad
            but that giant black monster on the back is trash
            why someone would need 4 or 5 cameras
            1 or 2 cameras are sufficient for more than 90 percent of people
            having the hole back of the phone covered in cameras is trash ,its a deal breaker, its donna weight more than 250g with these useless number of cameras
            why no one use 1 or 2 camera or maximum 3 like google and apple do
            and they beat others in cameras despite having less cameras
            imagine holding a phone and your fingers are on top of a giant black trash
            its not convenient or comfortable . Better buy a tablet then
            tablets without these cameras will be more comfortable
            giant notches or black holes in display and giant black monster in the back filled with useless cameras that makes a cheap phones cost more than 1500 dollars and make it weight more than 250g is ****
            if you want 5 cameras buy 5 cameras
            I will not be shocked if they add a webcam , a keyboard and a gamepad to the phone and make it weight more than a big tablet
            I wish they make normal phones like the mi 9 with 3 cameras and a small camera island that doesn't take more than 20 percent of the back and make the phone handicapped and not symmetrical

              AnonD-909757, 14 Dec 2021"For me I'd prefer the cost of the rear display t... moreIt's just an example. I didn't say it was a problem at all. The decision will be made on what they think will be popular and sell best in any case.

                Anonymous, 14 Dec 2021You're simply saying that you don't want this fea... moreNo, this was a follow up comment based on a reply to my previous post in which I did say that if they do remove it, it is probably based on feedback from Chinese users. Most companies are going to collect feedback from their users. That's the point. Anyway, they will probably know whether this feature is used a lot or not and they can make a decision based on that. They can't satisfy everyone but will want to satisfy the majority of their target market for this phone. If they remove it then it's probably because they don't view it as a key selling point. If they keep it then it's probably because it's a popular feature

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                  • Anonymous
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                  • 14 Dec 2021

                  Aierlan, 14 Dec 2021A fair point. I totally agree with you on the headphone ja... moreYou're simply saying that you don't want this feature. Don't you think that many people may want it? By using this logic, if you don't want the selfie camera, should it be removed? The world doesn't revolve around you.

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                    • 14 Dec 2021

                    Aierlan, 14 Dec 2021A fair point. I totally agree with you on the headphone ja... more"For me I'd prefer the cost of the rear display to be spent elsewhere or passed on to the consumer"
                    Yeah, but why would ONE phone series or special variant with it be so much of a problem that it needs to be pointed out?
                    Mainly, considering its predecessor had it.
                    It is like complaining that the Zenfone have a flip cam, like, just buy another phone then.
                    The fact it isn't the most requested feature, or add cost, or other things like that is NOT a justification for not having few models with such feature.

                    If we start to see everything things that way, you'd still have this as the smartphone available :
                    https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_1s-4929.php
                    Single camera, because who REALLY need multiple camera on a smartphone when you can just buy a camera?
                    Who REALLY need a super high resolution display with high refresh rate?
                    Who have REAL use of 4G when you can just wait?
                    Who NEED more than 4Gb of internal memory when you have the cloud?

                    The problem here is that you write your opinion as a statement as if you could speak for everybody (not just you, EVERYONE is this darn community, THIS is the problem), and as if you really need ALL phones to match YOURS specifications and the trend.
                    Do you even plan on buying this phone?
                    Even if yours is far more polite and soft than how many say it, all of those comments are what killed diversity.
                    Literally, nail-clippers have a hundred times more diversity than smartphones despite the huge number of possible designs, options and features smartphones can have.
                    And that's just ONE example, everything else have much more diversity than smartphone, and their common point is that in most/all, their community doesn't ask as if a SINGLE model/series with a specific feature would ruin their ability to buy a phone without it.
                    Imagine complaining about Ford making sport cars (like the Mustang) because only a minority buy them compared to all the rest, why would you care?

                      AnonD-909757, 14 Dec 2021See, the thing is, with a second display on the back you ha... moreA fair point. I totally agree with you on the headphone jack and sd card. In terms of the rear display it is not something that is commonly provided on phones (only a few brands like Meizu and Vivo and then later Xiaomi used it) and it also adds a bit of cost to the phone. The other two add virtually nothing in cost and the sd card can actually help the consumer save a bit of money as it gives you the option of buying a lower storage variant and using an sd card if necessary. Expensive flagships always charge a premium for higher storage variants compared to cheaper models which is also a ridiculous practice designed to increase already high profit margins.
                      For me I'd prefer the cost of the rear display to be spent elsewhere or passed on to the consumer but I take your point. Choice is always a good thing

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                        • 14 Dec 2021

                        Aierlan, 14 Dec 2021In reality though, do many people want ultra clear selfies ... moreSee, the thing is, with a second display on the back you have something called CHOICE.
                        I'm not talking about removing the front camera here, just about a second display on the back.
                        If you prefer using the main, better, rear camera, you can, and if you prefer using the front selfie camera, you can.
                        The SAME thing with an SD card slot and the 3.5mm Jack, you have the CHOICE to use them or not, no one force you to buy a smaller storage variant because of the SD card nor to use the Jack over Bluetooth if you don't want to.

                        Saying that "because some people doesn't use X or Y feature then it should be removed" is the SAME as saying "why are we making a/this city disabled friendly when they are only a minority?".

                        What is wrong with people in the Android community?

                          Mihail Tal, 14 Dec 2021Where is the secondary display?? That was literally the ... moreIn reality though, do many people want ultra clear selfies that show the pores on their skin? The biggest users of selfie cams are young female consumers most of which are going to use beauty modes in any case so the front camera tailored for selfies is going to suit the majority of their needs better. Of course there are exceptions but I guess they probably got feedback from their users in China at least, which is where the vast majority of their more expensive models are sold. Personally think it makes sense to remove it and just add a better selfie cam

                            the OTT looks, i am wondering if the extremely large lens sensor is for looks than anything else, reminds me of bmw every growing grills, though i prefer sony xperia pro i discreet design, nevertheless but with leica lens and harmon kardon speakers, looks decent and a killer flagship

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                              • 14 Dec 2021

                              Where is the secondary display??

                              That was literally the main feature of Mi 11 Ultra.

                              Using main camera for selfies was extreme boost in image quality.

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                                Anonymous, 13 Dec 2021Dear. You need to understand. Second screen increases ... moreDear. You need to understand.

                                *Many would buy it FOR the second display, and super expensive phones proved many times that there are a bunch of buyers for costlier phones, and AGAIN, no need for 120FPS HRD+ 4k*4K miniled display, a decent cheap LCD would do the job.
                                *The DISPLAY is fragile, if anything, it will make the body stronger as you are ADDING an element, a hole in the display make it more fragile.
                                *Once AGAIN, NOT if you simply put it on the back WITHOUT changing its actual size, the camera already protrude, putting a display, so it comes flush (thickness wise) to the camera hump would fix the battery issue.

                                *It has been PROVED that front facing camera were used in a LOT of occasions to spy on users, most SECURITY EXPERTS advise covering laptop camera, Windows, Linux and MacOS are MUCH MORE secure than Android, but maybe you know more than security experts?
                                Being paranoid doesn't mean being wrong, but people being overly skeptical because something "seem too crazy to be true" is way off the reality than someone paranoid.
                                And being appropriately careful about something that has been PROVEN is not being paranoid, it is called common sense.
                                *You know nothing about privacy, private data, all the underlying things that an image of you AND your surrounding can give, identity thief, mass surveillance and racial/ethnic targeting.
                                Educate yourself before making totally false statements about privacy.

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • tZk
                                  • 14 Dec 2021

                                  AnonD-909757, 13 Dec 2021Android community idiots : "Small sensors are bad.&qu... moreReading through the comments, most of those Android 'experts' are more about criticising anything Xiaomi rather than the design or functionality. Noticed the new accounts being created just to spread fake stories about their Mi 11 Ultra not getting updates?

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • tZk
                                    • 14 Dec 2021

                                    Rekt, 13 Dec 2021Fact is you are going to get your rear panel glass broken r... moreSuddenly so many new accounts commenting about their highly doubtful stories of not getting updates and phone easily breaking here.

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • sUS
                                      • 14 Dec 2021

                                      Anonymous, 13 Dec 2021Dear. You need to understand. Second screen increases ... moreYou sound like Samsung's PR when they defended the jack removal by saying it added 400mah battery.
                                      Which meant nothing since bluetooth will just consume more power than a zero consumption wired set.

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • sUS
                                        • 14 Dec 2021

                                        Anonymous, 13 Dec 2021Dear. You need to understand. Second screen increases ... moreWdym? Even Zuckerberg covers his laptop's camera with a tape. And a woman with a macbook got was video recorded naked but she didn't know because the light indicator was bypassed by the hacker.

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