Intel announces 12th-gen H processors for laptops with hybrid design
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- 11 Jan 2022
It beats the ryzen chips in cinebench as well, but still in price/performance, I would still choose a ryzen 9 5900h...
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- 09 Jan 2022
Anonymous, 06 Jan 2022Beaten based on what tho? By random useless benchmark from ... moreYeah, beaten by what ? Horse 💩 benchmarking software.
Use industry standard benchmarks, and not AnTuTu or Geekbench garbage.
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- 06 Jan 2022
constipation, 06 Jan 2022Oh yeah i forgot that this gen, all TDP variant are under t... moreBeaten based on what tho? By random useless benchmark from guy like ultimate noobs mkbhd, maxtech and so on? Ever heard about LTT, HWU? Go check their real world reviews
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- 06 Jan 2022
constipation, 06 Jan 2022Yes, M1 regular, the one that's in Mac Mini/ 2020 MBA/... moreEven intel soc are rated as 15w but they consume more than that. There are lot of test which show M1 consume around 30W.
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Hemedans, 06 Jan 2022Even M1 max was beaten by Alderlake, not just regular M1, a... moreYes, M1 regular, the one that's in Mac Mini/ 2020 MBA/MBP 13 is rated up to 10 W. Check up Notebookcheck page about that SoC.
M1 Pro and Max is rated up to 30W, however since it's quite dynamie it could go as low as 8W. Check up Anandtech's review of it.
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Hemedans, 06 Jan 2022Even M1 max was beaten by Alderlake, not just regular M1, a... moreOh yeah i forgot that this gen, all TDP variant are under the same codename. Nope, 28W Alder Lake is the P variant and yes it beaten the M1 regular, but not the M1 Pro and Max. The one that beaten the M1 Pro/Max is the 45W Alder Lake H mobile series.
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- 06 Jan 2022
SigmaR, 06 Jan 20224P + 4E is a 8 Core design. You meant 12 threads, not cores... moreyep.
4P+4E (with each PERFORMANCE core having 2 threads in and each ENERGY core having 1 thread) is 12 threads.
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- 06 Jan 2022
Using 5 times more power?
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- 06 Jan 2022
Cant keep buying all this new tech stuff, its getting too expensive to keep up.
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- 06 Jan 2022
constipation, 05 Jan 2022Depends on what you're comparing on. Regular M1, which... moreEven M1 max was beaten by Alderlake, not just regular M1, and M1 is not 10w it consume close to 28W.
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Goddess Lyrienne, 05 Jan 2022I'm curious about the G series honestly... would it be... more4P + 4E is a 8 Core design. You meant 12 threads, not cores, right?
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- 06 Jan 2022
Will be buying 12 gen msi laptop
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- 05 Jan 2022
fanboyssuck, 05 Jan 2022arent they different?Hugely different, totally different power usage parameters
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- 05 Jan 2022
Anonymous, 05 Jan 2022ٍSadly, I'm still going to move to M1 Macbook Air. Thi... moreSo sacrifice usability and freedom for efficiency? That makes no sense....
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- 05 Jan 2022
HaterzSuckkkkk, 05 Jan 2022I think you're misunderstanding this. The CPU of th... moreI think there are still good things about this. IMO getting high thread-count CPUs / SoCs into mobile devices is definitely a good thing. M1 is impressive, but unfortunately you can't run every thing on ARM or Mac OS. x86 is still king for software availability.
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- 05 Jan 2022
Anonymous, 05 Jan 2022X86 is holding human progress as hostage. Imagine if R... moreAnd with RISC-V none of it will be compatible lol. All of these companies will want to lock things down like Apple is doing.
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- 05 Jan 2022
Anonymous, 05 Jan 2022X86 is holding human progress as hostage.
Imagine if R... moreNot really, laptops/PCs are a dead paradigm. New generation uses ARM processors almost exclusively. They won't grow up and suddenly ask for the kind of computers their ancestors had. Work would change to fit their needs.
X86 is not holding us back anymore. It and the segment it represents is slowly dying it is all... Good riddance. 50 years in the realm of tech are too many... Bye
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- 05 Jan 2022
AhmedSLL, 05 Jan 2022Hopefully windows benefits from this too, because right now... moreI have a Dell Vostro with ryzen 5000 series chip and 54Whr battery. Gives me 12-13 hours of screen on time on wifi.
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Hemedans, 05 Jan 2022Alderlake has gpu also, not as powerfull as m1 max though. ... moreDepends on what you're comparing on. Regular M1, which what you said that got beaten by Alder Lake on Geekbench, is a 10W TDP SoC.
The one that I'm talking earlier is M1 Pro and Max duo, which has higher TDP (but remember it's quite dynamic so it depending on the use https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performance-review/3 )
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Anonymous, 05 Jan 2022I think it might. The i9-12900HK has a tdp of 45w and the M... moreI think this is your first reading on PC CPUs.
Intel always has been on 45W for their higher end mobile CPU. The problem is that Apple's is a SoC packet (CPU, GPU, RAM, basically almost the whole system as it says "system on chip") so 90W is as much as it gets as the whole system. On PC you need to add that 45W with other stuff, especially GPU, which eats way higher even mobile ones, for example the latest n gratest RTX 3080 mobile can ate up to 190W. PC version is even higher at 300ish watt.