A new report corroborates the iPhone 14 Pro will have a 48MP camera
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Just wondering how the fortune tellers know what the look of next one or two is
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I wonder if Apple will use a Quad Bayer 48MP sensor or a native RGB 48MP sensor. I'm still waiting for any smartphone to truly surpass the Nokia 808 PureView and the Nokia Lumia 1020's still-superb photo quality.
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Nick Tegrataker, 13 Jan 2022If treated right, full-res images from a Quad Bayer sensor ... moreOn another note I'm also super annoyed that nobody else used that omnivision sensor. It was fricking awesme.
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Nick Tegrataker, 13 Jan 2022If treated right, full-res images from a Quad Bayer sensor ... more"If treated right" is a key part, also under ideal lighting conditions (or lower shutter speed).
I have seen and played with those raw samples of mi 10 ultra someone uploaded on dpreview a while ago. Though at 100% I didn't feel the details were defined enough. It maybe the lens not being able to resolve all those details because who are we kidding, it's only been a while since actual camera lenses are able to resolve those numbers. There was also a lot of moire and fringing but that could be removed.
That being said at 50-67% those images were pretty impressive.
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I got 48mp cameraphone only for $100 here : https://youtu.be/0BiJsdyHsGc even android already move to 108mp as standard specs
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PixelFan, 13 Jan 2022Smartphone photography, yes. iPhones are one of the better ... moreLeica phone is just an Aquos r6 with different cam bump.
Pro-i compared to 1iii uses much higher bitrates. Even more for videography pro (bitrate is higher than cinema pro).
Larger sensor = more heat , no matter the fact it uses 1/1.3". Also the bionz X chip inside uses very old cortex A5. Now do the math.
* many reports say Aquos R6 gets super hot.
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Street Puppy, 13 Jan 2022No. It cannot.
Midranges take much inferior photos comp... moreTo confirm, you were referring to my example, right?
If so, I could've been wrong but I have seen camera comparisons b/w the two sensors I mentioned IMX363 might have been used in past flagships (prominently the Pixel line) but it has gotten pretty old now. Some (not all), midranger sensors like IMX682 are able to match it but not outright beat it.
Again I can be wrong but my JN1 vs GN1 example is a spot on sensor comparison to prove that megapixel count cannot be the sole factor for image quality.
Also, you're 100% correct
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Street Puppy, 13 Jan 2022No. It cannot.
Midranges take much inferior photos comp... moreVery good example is the same IMX766 sensor, used in mid tier phones like 1+Nord 2 and Oppo find x3 Pro/ xiaomi 12. Totally different output.
Lens quality, software processing (sometimes making look worse on purpose for low end models) matters a lot.
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PixelFan, 13 Jan 2022Are you daft? I literally gave you two sensor models for co... moreNo. It cannot.
Midranges take much inferior photos compared to old flagships that use smaller sensors because OEMs offer the cheapest software possible for cheap phones.
Basically only pixel A series is treated same way the main phone is.
Few years ago, many cheap phones had 13MP 1/3" like LG G6. Still they were all inferior.
Samsung A5 2016 for example had 13MP 1/3". Nowhere near G6
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Anonymous, 13 Jan 2022Except iPhones are considered best of the best when it come... more"Except iPhones are considered best of the best when it comes to photography?"
..In your opinion.
"Literally every single comparison you'll see involves either latest iPhone or latest Galaxy S"
That's because Apple and Samsung are literally two of the most popular smartphone brands in the world. Of course people make camera comparison videos/articles revolving around iPhones and Galaxy, as those reviewers are craving for more clicks which will bring them ad revenue.
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Rkm, 13 Jan 2022You do realize that even though the sensors are 40-108mp, t... moreIf treated right, full-res images from a Quad Bayer sensor could easily demolish lower resolution output from a regular Bayer sensor.
Huawei's AI 48/50MP photos look nicely sharp and are vastly superior to its regular 12MP photos in every single way as long as there's enough light in the scene. Mi 10 Ultra's stacked 48MP shots through GCam handly beats Nokia 808 let alone 99% of the phones released last year in terms of the sheer amount of details captured, too. Having an option to shoot in higher resolution in the first place is always a plus.
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Anonymous, 13 Jan 2022Iphone being number one in mobile photography is just a mad... moreI mean if iPhone is one of the top camera phones with "old tech" then that means that they were doing something right.
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Anonymous, 13 Jan 2022It is a welcome change. Apples photography software process... moreIphone being number one in mobile photography is just a made up narrative inside your head.
The creation of made up narrative is just one of many ways to cover your dissapointment feeling with your old tech phone.
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Anonymous, 13 Jan 2022Except iPhones are considered best of the best when it come... moreSmartphone photography, yes. iPhones are one of the better ones.
But their image o/p feels over-processed, but most people seem to prefer over-processed pics over natural ones for some reason.
They are consistent however, so there's that.
If Xperia Pro-i didn't have a terrible night mode and didn't shutdown during high temps it'd probably be the best one. Either that or the Leica phone.
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Anonymous, 13 Jan 2022everyoneYou need to learn that you aren't everyone.
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Anonymous, 13 Jan 2022Except iPhones are considered best of the best when it come... moreNo, it's well known that pictures taken by iPhone phones are overprocessed.
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Mikele, 13 Jan 2022Nice observations
Try any Huawei P/Mate series phones fr... moreDo they sell the Kirin variant outside China?
I am interested in testing a Kirin unit. It'd be great if they can transfer HiSilicon to Honor to get the Kirin series devices out in the open market.
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Mikele, 13 Jan 2022It counts, 2 are better than 1 they say
Your explanation... moreYou do realize that even though the sensors are 40-108mp, the output still are 10-12mp right. The act as a big 10-12mp sensor. Those sensor's full resolution mode usually are in the range of 'utter garbage' to 'can be used with a lot of post processing'.
So in your 'It counts, 2 are better than 1' statement, it actually doesn't count to 2.
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Mikele, 13 Jan 2022It counts, 2 are better than 1 they say
Your explanation... moreAre you daft? I literally gave you two sensor models for comparison to exemplify what I was trying to convey.
I am saying that a high megapixel count is not definite proof of the camera quality being good. I never said that it doesn't matter at all.
A well optimized 12 Megapixel Sony IMX363 can go toe to toe with an optimized 64MP Sony IMX682. The former is an old sensor and the latter is fairly new but they're comparable because of the simple fact that megapixel count isn't a sole indicator of better quality.
Other OEMs adopting high megapixel sensors whilst Apple, Samsung and Google not doing it for the longest of time wasn't indicative of the latter 3 having inferior camera setups.
Also, I didn't mention Huawei because their phones aren't available in most markets so no one can get their hands on them. Not to mention in foreign markets they've been gimped and are forced to only sell 4G based Snapdragons that makes them loose quite a bit of appeal. If I had to ever pick an Huawei I'd prefer the Kirin over a Snap any time.
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Mikele, 13 Jan 2022It counts, 2 are better than 1 they say Your explanation... moreExcept iPhones are considered best of the best when it comes to photography? Literally every single comparison you'll see involves either latest iPhone or latest Galaxy S. You'll here and there see mention of Xiaomi Mi11 Ultra and stuff like Oppo Find F3 Pro, but ultimately hardly anyone really cares about those outside of "wow this is so cool and continues to forget about them in next 5 minutes".