The charging study aftermath: Overnight charging is going out of fashion
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- MihaiRo
- nF9
- 03 Apr 2022
Recently I noticed that Samsung for the middle range or flag ships offers 4 years of OS updates! But what use if after 2 years ,battery no longer has that capacity and can not be replaced? At least, those in the A52,53 range with plastic cover... why Samsung does not allow this cover to be removed???The battery to be replaced is more important than a longer OS update.
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- Anonymous
- XUv
- 03 Apr 2022
This is very true.
With 67 Watt Charging now,
I always charge in the morning.
When I'm cooking for breakfast & in shower.
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- Anonymous
- 7Xi
- 03 Apr 2022
Jacksonzxop, 03 Apr 2022Even Linus said it's healthy for your battery long ter... moreMy phone is now 3 years old and I checked the battery and it still hasn't degraded past 12 percent. That practices applied 5 years ago when phones weren't using new generation Li-Po Batteries and was still using Li-Ion and prototype Li-Po batteries
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- Tonssuper
- Kxb
- 03 Apr 2022
Battery need to be separately treated as source of power. No more integrated battery. Many cases about battery exploding. When fast charge come in to equation, nobody pay attention to wattage, how much refrigerator or air condition reduce the electricity power which mean less expensive to overall electric price. But this fast charge head break through 100w? I like to hear you guys opinion about this.
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- Anonymous
- rKX
- 03 Apr 2022
Anders, 03 Apr 2022Losing "only" 20% of your battery capacity in 2 y... moreCorrect. Phones earlier had slower charging but the batteries lasted far more. My previous phone for example. It was a four year old phone. The battery was still at about 80 percent at the time when I changed phones
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- Anonymous
- rKX
- 03 Apr 2022
Anonymous, 03 Apr 2022Funny how some youtubers make ppl believe Apple or Samsung ... moreSony was the first to do that. Perhaps
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- Duke
- fuv
- 03 Apr 2022
Well I would support the reintroduction of removable batteries, even after a careful consideration of these trends of built-in batteries, at least I would be happy to pass on ma old phone with newly purchased battery to a less unfortunate family member or friend.
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- AnonD-731363
- ScD
- 03 Apr 2022
Since time is money faster means better.
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- Anonymous
- pWD
- 03 Apr 2022
Ever since I've had a fast-charging phone (Nexus 6 was my first), haven't left my phones charge overnight. Quick top-ups whenever it's needed. OnePlus 8T charges so fast that 15-20 mins every morning is more than enough for the day and night.
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- Anonymous
- puk
- 03 Apr 2022
apertotes, 03 Apr 2022So, what do people do with their phones during the night? J... moreAnd why not? I charge phone in the morning or before I go to sleep and never leave it charging for hours. I only charge from 20-80%. Phone is over 3 years old and I don't think I notice any change in battery life.
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- Anonymous
- 3Rs
- 03 Apr 2022
who cares
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- Jacksonzxop
- ri0
- 03 Apr 2022
Even Linus said it's healthy for your battery long term wise to be charged between 20% and 80% so I'm not sure why people who keep their phones for 2-4 years charge their phones to 100% overnight and let it go below 10% 😕
- Kangal
- Px%
- 03 Apr 2022
Charging your phone should always be Standard (aka "slow"), to extend the battery's health.
If you want to Fast Charge, it should give you a Toggle when you plug it in, to enable it. That's just a start, there are more that could be done. It's almost only Sony (OEM) who is being environmentally friendly here, by reducing e-waste, and elongating battery health with their sensible charging and software features.
Besides, 800 charge cycles might seem like a lot, but this standard is applies in a "perfect" Lab-Controlled Environment. Even then it's not always kept. And in real-world conditions is likely far far less, so it is not enough. Why? Because the batteries are more dense... the battery is built thinner and weaker and undergoes more stresses... the phone internals are much hotter... Wireless Charging adds a lot of wear to the Li-ions.... and Websites, Apps, plus OS have much more bloat in this decade than last decade.
Also, phones went through rapid evolution from 2008-to-2014. You could upgrade every 5-13 months and notice pretty big improvements. Whilst 2015 sucked, it was a fine year in 2016. Since then, 2017-2023 it has been very minor or slow upgrades. So people now use a smartphone for longer and longer periods. So when older phones were served with only 2-year battery lifespans and 1-year updates, these newer phone need to extend to 4-year battery lifespans and 3-year updates. That seems more level. So battery health is more relevant now, but that has not improved (actually regressed). The OEMs have been pretty negligent on this front, why? It makes good profit/business sense to: devices less durable, weak battery health, software updates poor, and make devices difficult to repair.
If only, people could ignore the expensive marketing and psychological tricks, and buy a phone based on it's value (price, quality, longevity, support, etc etc).
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- Anonymous
- mE0
- 03 Apr 2022
EU trying to make out they are important and not impotent.
I’m European but it’s not the EU’s way or nothing for me.
The EU does not care 💩 they just want to seem important, end of.
Self repair will kill the secondhand marketplace, who’s going to want to buy a used phone that some dumbo has tried fixing ?
There will be news reports of dimwits setting fire to things, exploding batteries,etc
I just don’t trust the average person to correctly fix anything, or to dispose of materials or chemicals used….I can’t even count the times I’ve come across tech dumps in the local woods and waterways.
People are too dumb and lazy to do things correctly
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- apertotes
- jRv
- 03 Apr 2022
So, what do people do with their phones during the night? Just leave them on the bedside table not charging? Never heard of anything so stupid.
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- Anonymous
- 8Kf
- 03 Apr 2022
Niko, 03 Apr 2022Right to repair act will demand all manufacturers to supply... moreIt will never work.
Component makers will never keep producing parts for that long when new ones come out every year.
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- Anonymous
- puk
- 03 Apr 2022
Sure, if manufacturers, whose sole purpose is to feed us "new" phones every single year is to believe that batteries don't degrade with fast charging. You know, same batteries that can't be easily replaced and same manufacturers who desperately strive to sell more phones as often as possible.
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- kek
- GBh
- 03 Apr 2022
Like another comment in here mentions:
Most knowledgeable people wouldnt mind fast charging at all if batteries could be easily replaceable. But as things stand right now, its better to keep the charging speed as low as possible.
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- Anonymous
- mGF
- 03 Apr 2022
45min-1 hour 0-100% is the sweet spot for me.
Apple you know what to do ;)