Qualcomm announces Snapdragon 7 Gen 1
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- 05 Dec 2022
Anonymous, 22 May 2022I want to get the a53 5g but I'm skeptical to buy beca... morejust buy the A74 it will have the snap 7 gen 1
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- 24 Oct 2022
The primium king is 865
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- Anonymous
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- 18 Jul 2022
Hopefully it working as what 888 intended, the cortex a710 can go down with higher rfficiency watt thrn big cortex like x2, (dars from tsmcn8 gen1+) also the isp and gpu is taken from adreno 888
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Anonymous, 20 May 2022888 has more peak performance than 870 but 870 has better c... more870 is much better than 888 because of its long sustained performance...
- Kangal
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- 25 May 2022
Magnaroader, 23 May 2022Finally! Someone else who sees that the 700 series are equa... moreTo be fair, they weren't entirely wrong.
The early-midrange chips were competitive. And the late-midrange chips were competitive.
...it is the stuff in the middle where Qualcomm started lacking (late-2018 to early-2021).
So the early chipsets that were competitive are (QSD 650, 652, 653, 636, 660, 710) against the older flagship QSD 810, QSD 820, QSD 821. And the late chipsets that were competitive are (QSD 778, 780, QC 7g1) against the QSD 855, QSD 865. Here's what the middle looks like...
...The chipsets that were not competitive are (slowest to fastest):
QSD 632, 460, 662, 665, 680, 675, 678, 480, 670, 712, 730, 732, 720, (QSD 835-level) 765, 690, 750, 768, QSD 695 (QSD 845-level).
Most of these chipsets launched YEARS after their ex-flagships, the QSD 835 and QSD 845, yet they could not match them, let alone surpass them. Which is why in those periods it would have been more advisable to get a flagship OR an ex-flagship device. Also remember, that is around 3-years of mediocrity, that's a pretty long time in technology.
The "naming" does not matter, but rather their design. Intuitively a QSD 480/690 sounds like it should be FAR SLOWER than a QSD 680/732, but in fact, they are faster. Qualcomm's naming has been pretty bad, sort of like the USB consortium and Intel's naming schemes.
I won't include the re-badged (or re-tweaked) chipsets in this list, as they aren't the subject matter. These are the QSD 860 and QSD 870 devices, as they are fundamentally different to the midrange chipsets that we are discussing (some 4-series, 6-series, and 7-series).
I hope all this helps.
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- 23 May 2022
Kangal, 22 May 2022Qualcomm releases their high-end (or upper-midrange) chipse... moreFinally! Someone else who sees that the 700 series are equal to older flagships therefore not being complete trash.
Lots of people in my region complain oh its not 800 series but forget that older flagships are still completely capable even if they are slightly underclocked.
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- 22 May 2022
Kangal, 22 May 2022Qualcomm releases their high-end (or upper-midrange) chipse... moreNah ! Maybe just the cpu performance but most of the high end cpu features were not available in those 7 series processors ( for example memory bandwidth ). And GPU was far far inferior; I am talking abou atleast 3 generations behind.
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- 22 May 2022
Anonymous, 22 May 2022I want to get the a53 5g but I'm skeptical to buy beca... morea53 is a bad idea. awful performance and not efficient.
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- 22 May 2022
Qualcomm releases their high-end (or upper-midrange) chipset, and they roughly equal the performance of their flagship (or luxury) chipset from about a year or so ago. Here's a lineup:
QSD 810, QSD 820, QSD 835, QSD 845, QSD 855, QSD 870.
QSD 650, QSD 700, QSD 720, QSD 768G, QSD 778, QC 7g1.
...notice that the QSD 720 launched fairly later than usual in such lineup. And we've been stuck on that level performance for a decent while. The QSD 768G doesn't quiet match the QSD 845, let alone beat it. Which is a poor showing compared to it's earlier 7-series predecessors.
So I've had very low expectation of the QSD 780 and slightly less for the QSD 778. So think of my shock when I read the proper specs for it, and found the QSD 778 doesn't just match but slightly surpasses the QSD 855/860. Based on the details known about the new QC 7g1, I think it is a worthy successor to the fast-discontinued QSD 780/778. And it should rival the old flagship which was the QSD 870, that is great news for the midrange segment.
Anyone getting a QC 7g1 chipset in their phone, is basically getting something that is as good as the QC 8g1 and the previous three-years of flagships. That must mean next year's flagship chipset, the QC 8g2, is going to be a proper upgrade.
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- 22 May 2022
Anonymous, 22 May 2022I want to get the a53 5g but I'm skeptical to buy beca... more35L
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- 22 May 2022
Anonymous, 21 May 2022What, do you mean A510 is less efficient than its predecess... moreAll of the first-generation ARMv9 cores are slightly inferior to their last-generation ARMv8 cores. This happens pretty often in the tech segment. It is in the second or third gen when things go into full-swing. Remember the QSD 810, and how it was actually inferior to the QSD 805, as Qualcomm made the shift from their 32-bit cores to 64-bit cores.
Cortex X2 vs X1, A710 vs A78, A510 vs A55. They only perform better because they're using a slightly better lithography/node, have more cache, and are using a faster memory. But all of this comes at the cost of higher prices, more energy used, more heat produced. Which might be fine for a tablet, but bad for a pocketable device.
The second-gen ARMv9 cores are designed by the European Team. They have a much stronger track-record. Cortex-X3 and Cortex-A730 are coming in Q1 2023. And Qualcomm is shifting to TSMC for the flagship chipset, so we should see a substantial efficiency gain/battery life extension on top of this. But we're stuck with the very disappointing Cortex-A510 (basically the 28nm Cortex-A53 from 2013 that is refreshed for 6nm node in current times, if we're being honest), whilst Apple has actually innovated on that front and is so far ahead.
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- 22 May 2022
I want to get the a53 5g but I'm skeptical to buy because of exynos 1280. If samsung release an a53s 5g with the snapdragon 7gen 1 then I'm buyin it. So should I wait for a53s 5g or should i just but the a53 5g right now?
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- 22 May 2022
Rkm, 20 May 2022Kinda wish that they didn't go "this much more pe... moreOfc dude, because they still want to catch apple bionic, faster yet power efficient chip in latest iphone
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- 22 May 2022
Anonymous, 21 May 2022Samsung isn't the problem, it's just the arm'... moreHistorically, Samsung's chips have always been more inefficient than TSMC of same generation as far as I am aware. That's why you had this whole Exynos controversy 2 years ago, before Qualcomm decided to move it's production away from TSMC to Samsung. After the move, thing have become quiet since the difference between SD and Exynos have been minimal. Now that QC moved back to TSMC, expect the Exynos controversy to return again.
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- 21 May 2022
Zero, 20 May 2022Snapdragon 7 Gen 1 is a premium chip? What did you smoke? T... moreFirst read and understand before you reply. Where did I write that 7 gen 1 is a top chip?
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- Anonymous
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- 21 May 2022
Anonymous, 21 May 2022Samsung isn't the problem, it's just the arm'... moreHow often do I have to tell you this, the comparative of „bad“ is „worse“
Not to mention that the content of your comment is dumb
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- Hemedans
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- 21 May 2022
IpsDisplay, 21 May 2022What proof do you want , FRAND violation and fines because ... moreYou see Asus? They didnt release phone with sd 8 gen 1 they wait for 8 gen 1+, Oppo? Last year they use Snapdragon this year some of thier flagship has d9000, so is Vivo and Oneplus,
Thats Proof Qualcomm dont tie them down, they Decide what to do.
FRAND has nothing to do with what you said, Frand is patents, like Qualcomm was Charging oem by percentage of device price instead of fixed price.
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- 21 May 2022
Anonymous, 21 May 2022Samsung isn't the problem, it's just the arm'... moreWhat, do you mean A510 is less efficient than its predecessor that was designed several years back?
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- 21 May 2022
Hemedans, 20 May 2022can you provide proof? of what you say? Samsung as Large... moreWhat proof do you want , FRAND violation and fines because I can give you those