Samsung flexes its 200MP HP1 sensor by printing a cat billboard
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TheLastOracle, 01 Jun 2022Not rreally.only tiny tweaks to the sensor, and a better an... moreYour words are not going to process that data.
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TheLastOracle, 01 Jun 2022By way of measuring its wavelength, by AI. The same way how... moreI think I already described the problem to my next comment after that one. For monochrome sensor it just need to detect one color. It does not detect and process different waves..
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- 01 Jun 2022
TheLastOracle, 01 Jun 2022The problem with Foveon is that the same light must pass th... moreA Foveon X3 sensor doesn't use CFA, but rather detects the amount of light that passes through each silicon layer. This is by far the only way to isolate colours using "wavelength recognition", and the end result is atrocious at higher ISO, so don't count on it.
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P C M, 26 May 2022How would the sensor capture colors without Color Filter ?By way of measuring its wavelength, by AI. The same way how b&w pics are turned into colour.
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P C M, 26 May 2022Do you know how many hardware parts would it need to make p... moreNot rreally.only tiny tweaks to the sensor, and a better and faster ISP
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Nick Tegrataker, 26 May 2022Wavelength? So that's a Foveon X3 sensor then. Good l... moreThe problem with Foveon is that the same light must pass through 3 layers of CFA. So by the time the final layer gets colours there isn't really much left.
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Anonymous, 26 May 2022Without CFA, it becomes monochrome camera. This way, you... moreIf one can create colour pics from b&w ones you can easily isolate colour information.
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- 30 May 2022
When they will do optical as Sony does with their smaller sensors,THEN and ONLY THEN, they can match the competition!
Crap proof for crap ppl... That simple!
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- 30 May 2022
Marco M, 27 May 2022Flexibility is the key. They can use the same wafer in ... moreNokia had first proved it before with the 808 PureView and the Lumia 1020. You have 41MP mode if you want to do large print and oversampled 5MP mode for media social or photo-sharing use. It is the best of both worlds.
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- 30 May 2022
SpongeBob, 28 May 2022It's sad that people still fall for the megapixels gim... moreThat is correct. At the end of the day, sensor size matters the most.
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- 30 May 2022
So bassically now we know that those Big Billboard that says "Shot with iPhone" is totally a lie with 12Mpx.
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- 29 May 2022
SpongeBob, 28 May 2022It's sad that people still fall for the megapixels gim... moreWell yea, people still fall for this gimmick just because they aren't aware of megapixel's job so obviously companies will take advantage of that. Marketing fact, literacy fact :)
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- 28 May 2022
The 48 Megapixel iPhone 14 Pro Max is better than any 200MP sensor. The key for any situation is the big pixel size.
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- 28 May 2022
It's sad that people still fall for the megapixels gimmick. Not even professional DSLR or mirrorless cameras use sensors with more than 50 MP yet they produce photos that are infinitely better than those from any smartphone.
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- 27 May 2022
YUKI93, 27 May 2022Well... such a huge Megapixel does make sense for a huge ca... moreYes, I didn't even see the results (somehow wouldn't load where I am), but I'm pretty sure what processing they used for the cat won't be readily available in their retail models.
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- 27 May 2022
ob, 27 May 2022I dont get why companies make this large megapixel while th... moreFlexibility is the key.
They can use the same wafer in different sizes for differently priced devices. This 200MP sensor uses Samsung's 0,64µm wafer. They make use of it in plenty sensors with different sizes and MP count, most often binning to 12 or 16MP.
The Mi 11 Ultra already bins to 2.8µm, so lets say someone makes a native 12.5MP sensor with a pixel pitch of 2.8µm. Then this HW could then realistically only be used for flagship devices, and possibly some compact cameras that has no where near the same number of devices sold per year. Realistically, making use of this wafer, only smaller for a budget or mid-ranger wouldn't work. No one would want to buy a phone with a 3 or 4MP main camera.
I like the solution of having a massive sensor at 50MP, 1.4µm is good for daylight photography and we can get incredible real detail - if properly implemented. At the same time the possibility to have a (smartphone wise) massive 2.8µm for excellent low light capabilites. Obviously there are other factors at play than just pixel pitch, but this physical attribute is very important nonetheless.
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- 27 May 2022
meanwhile latest iphone still stuck at 12mp... but they make a stunning picture (depends on how you take one)
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- 27 May 2022
I dont get why companies make this large megapixel while the quality in full resolution is mostly meh..
Very rare to see GSMA give a positive review about full resolution of large megapixel binning sensor. so why dont they produce just 16 mpx, large sensor, large/dual aperture, 1.8 pixel size and stay with it for years like IMX363?
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- 27 May 2022
Anonymous, 27 May 2022Pixel Binned Interpolated fake 200mp sensor? No thanks!interpolated oil painting
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- 27 May 2022
Well... such a huge Megapixel does make sense for a huge canvas like billboards. What I'd rather see is the processing algorithm of that sensor, especially on smartphones. That is a huge make-or-break when it comes to photography.