Kuo: only the iPhone 15 Pro Max is getting a periscope lens

14 July 2022
Previously, it was assumed that both Pro phones will get the longer lens. However, that may not happen until 2024.

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Mobilemaster, 14 Jul 2022I am not sure we could need 20 x zoom unless companies can ... moreNot possible in a phone with current tech. You would need a very thick device for that

    Anonymous, 14 Jul 202210 / 2 = 6?Want to split hairs?
    Yes, 6 is more than half of 10.

    Now let me split hairs as well:
    My 10x can do 100x. Iphone's 3x can do 15x. So their 6x will be able to do 30x. That's less than a third of my maximum zoom.

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      TheAlienNextDoor, 14 Jul 2022What on Earth are you talking about? -IOS 15 was full of... more1. Because iOS 15 is the only OS ever made that has bugs? (Windows user here)
      Answer is no btw, every OS has them.

      2. It was explained multiple times why 120hz on iOS feels different, but in short the OS itself is at fault because it already feels smooth at 60hz, the moment you go into a non Apple made app you do feel the same difference as on Android (and I have both iOS and Android phones, can confirm)

      3. I prefer Google Keyboard, iOS one sucks.
      Also there is no reason to complain about iOS keyboard, you can download a third party one and use it system wide (can confirm that too, I never use stock keyboard on Android either)

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        TheAlienNextDoor, 14 Jul 2022What on Earth are you talking about? -IOS 15 was full of... more„120 Hz on iPhones is horribly implemented “

        Lmao

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          • Anonymous
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          • 14 Jul 2022

          “Ming-Chi Kuo exists”

          Thats it, these people dump some self made opinions online in the hope to get it right.

          I can wait for rumours about “Samsung Galaxy S30 still having a camera” and the super shocking rumor about “iPhone 19 being made by Apple”

            Mobilemaster, 14 Jul 2022I am not sure we could need 20 x zoom unless companies can ... moreI use 30x on my S22 Ultra all the time.
            I'd love it if we had dedicated 10x, 30x, 50x and 100x cameras.
            Very useful.
            So much wildlife I can't approach but can now take pictures of.
            Also, love reading signs from far away. Saves me taking a trip to see when a store is open or whether I have to pay for parking.
            Not to mention the spying I can do lol.

              Mobilemaster, 14 Jul 2022I am not sure we could need 20 x zoom unless companies can ... moreWould be lovely for bird photography. Surely, the more lens the better.

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                TheAlienNextDoor, 14 Jul 2022So in a year and half it'll have half the zoom my S22 ... more10 / 2 = 6?

                  vrvly, 14 Jul 2022I think that in year and half we will have 20x zoom. Would ... moreI am not sure we could need 20 x zoom unless companies can make it continuous zoom. A fixes 20x is not that useful in my opinion.

                    Anonymous, 14 Jul 2022The difference is that they will work properly and not a ma... moreWhat on Earth are you talking about?

                    -IOS 15 was full of bugs when it came out.
                    -It took Apple more than 3 years to implement 120 Hz screens and 120 Hz on iPhones is horribly implemented and doesn't feel like 120 Hz at all, with the phone barely ever being in 120 Hz mode.
                    -iPhones still don't have a bloody numbers row on the keyboard for crying out loud!

                      vrvly, 14 Jul 2022I think that in year and half we will have 20x zoom. Would ... moreI don’t think it’s relevant who have longest zoom, but who does the zoom best without losing quality, even 10x zoom currently is too much, you loose lot of quality. That’s propably why Apple will keep it ”only” 6x

                        I think that in year and half we will have 20x zoom. Would Huawei still going strong, 15x would be here already.

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                          TheAlienNextDoor, 14 Jul 2022So in a year and half it'll have half the zoom my S22 ... moreThe difference is that they will work properly and not a marketing gimmick like most Android phones with half baked and unsupported features everywhere. Oh and updates that are stuck in Beta IF they ever come along.

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                            • 14 Jul 2022

                            Its all about preferences in focal length. I for one prefer x2~x3.5 zoom (50-90mm) over x10 zoom, anyday.

                            Right now at the moment, Xperia 1iv telephoto are the best to my eyes & closest option, optically moving lens from x3.5 to x5.2. You can even get better natural depth of field from it (without portrait mode), because its a 40mp 1/1.5" sensor size used, but later using a cropped lens resulting in smaller pixel size, resolution, to save spaces. Brilliant tech. Its the 'best' u can get from a phone telephoto camera as of today.

                              Anonymous, 14 Jul 2022Don't care about phone camera. What I care is performa... morePerformance: to do what? Phones were smooth and were able to play all games 3 gens ago.
                              Updates: to do what? Every new iOS update brings nothing new to the table. IOS is still a decade behind Android.
                              Support: what do you need support for? You need crutches to use your dumb iPhone?

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                                • 14 Jul 2022

                                iphone with periscope..... after so long... :V
                                ended copying samsung because running out of idea.

                                No more "reinnovate" reason because S22 Ultra already reinnovate it, photos from S22U periscope are very sharp than most phone

                                  Anonymous, 14 Jul 2022iPhone users who want smaller phone but great all round cam... more” iPhone users who want smaller phone but great all round cameras would either have to buy last gen iPhone or go with a android phone.”

                                  Or make compromise and buy the bigger like many did with 12 Pro Max because it had better cam, Or just wait one year, that’s what i’ve been doing when bigger iPhone have had better hardware. Very likely they won’t switch to Android, it needs a whole lot more to switch than longer zoom.

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                                    • 14 Jul 2022

                                    iPhone users who want smaller phone but great all round cameras would either have to buy last gen iPhone or go with a android phone.

                                    Some iPhone users which i have talked have said that when Galaxy Flip line gets telephoto camera(in addition to regular and ultrawide) they will buy that.

                                    One actually bought Flip 3 last year and she have been very happy with it compared to her last iPhone.

                                    Apple is counting on that iPhone users would not switch to android and would instead buy worse iPhone or go with biggest iPhone.

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                                      • 14 Jul 2022

                                      This is one of the many reasons to skip the iPhone 14 and just get the iPhone 15.
                                      Besides the the iPhone 14 doesn't look like a major upgrade neither does the Max version

                                        It's only a rumor, but that won't stop the inevitable 'My (insert name of Android here) already has (insert apparently life altering spec point here)....' shrieking that no doubt will follow.......

                                        Whilst, if this turn's out to be true in any event, I wouldn't say a return to differentiating the camera tech between the standard and Max versions of the Pro will be a move I will welcome. I don't think the inclusion of a periscope lens on either is something that needs to happen. Cool if it does, so what if it doesn't.

                                        For one thing, iPhone users are not crying out for it as evidenced by the lack of them switching to one of the Androids that may feature it. And second, Periscope cameras have been introduced and subsequently dropped on many of those android lines, which tells me those oems have themselves learned it's not all that of a necessary feature 🤷‍♂️