Counterpoint: Europe's smartphone market slides further in Q2

02 August 2022
Samsung and Apple remain the leaders and while their Q2 numbers look good compared to Q2 last year, the show a decline compared to more recent quarters.

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  • 08 Aug 2022

My Sony X5ll is so good that I will keep it for a year longer.

    [deleted post]lol, never, even for free. What I would do with that... I bought mostly undervalued devices, even now I get year old phone down more 1000euro in price.

      LoneOwl, 02 Aug 2022Actually in Eu,people have more Chinese flagships than ever... moreSadly, mi note 10 was last mid range gem I remember, together with vivo x30pro which I got.
      No nxt mid hero now. Doogee s98 pro is great, but no superwide and tele there.
      Looking at flagship prices, may as well just go for new 35-150 f2-2.8, if there is still some left lol.

        Zachs, 03 Aug 2022The thing is that there's other brands offering more f... moreAnd Apple is growing

          Zachs, 03 Aug 2022The thing is that there's other brands offering more f... moreAnd Apple is growing

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            • 03 Aug 2022

            The thing is that there's other brands offering more for the money and people are beginning to realise that.

              sq2013, 03 Aug 2022Apologies. You like me are in favor of the SD card slot. Me... moreThat's fine lol. I wouldn't buy a phone without unless it had like 1TB storage but I'm not paying an arm and a leg for something I could upgrade my old phone to for only a few hundred bucks.

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                PhoneFreak45, 03 Aug 2022So you're saying because people still want new phones ... moreApologies. You like me are in favor of the SD card slot. Meant to direct that to the other dude.

                  sq2013, 03 Aug 2022You don't want an SD card slot and that's fine fo... moreWell said, I agree with you. And as an audiophile I need the space.

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                    PhoneFreak45, 03 Aug 2022So you're saying because people still want new phones ... moreYou don't want an SD card slot and that's fine for you then but why can't you accept that other people do prefer it? Everyone understands that loading saved data from an external SD card outside of the integrated storage using the likes of UFS 2.1 or 3.1, is not going to be as fast. I still would prefer that to loading it from some cloud storage service via 4G, 5G or wifi where I feel the data is not truly mine. Who knows what really happens with that data when it's stored in the Google cloud or icloud? They're never going to tell you. 64gb with a good 8-10gb consumed by system storage is not enough. You need more space and I'm not happy to use cloud storage - which is often now paid for as well - or OTG adapters through a type-c port to connect USB type A drives. SD cards existed for years and represented an easily accessible and cheap solution, particularly when transferring data from one phone to a new phone.

                      blue, 03 Aug 2022And? It means something for the manufacturers, when most pe... moreSo you're saying because people still want new phones means that they obviously don't want a microSD card slot? Didn't GSMarena do a poll on this not long ago?

                        Anonymous, 03 Aug 2022Invest in a NAS, and good wifi 6 system. It will upload... moreIf I did not want my audio library to be portable I would not have it on my phone. A NAS would only complicate things unnecessarily, not to mention I'm not paying for a bunch of data to use a NAS outside the house when I can just, use the phone I've been using.

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                          • 03 Aug 2022

                          [deleted post]Nope. They are made in Vietnam.

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                            • 03 Aug 2022

                            Anonymous, 03 Aug 2022Your statement is funny, because majority of chinese phone ... moreWise man once said, "You either buy samsung phone with samsung brand or buy samsung phone with chinese brand"

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                              • 03 Aug 2022

                              [deleted post]In which universe? Samsung, Apple, Xiaomi, then the rest of the world.
                              Oh yes, you combine the BBK crap all together? Then maybe you should combine all other manufacturers together and they would totally be second...

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                                • 03 Aug 2022

                                Kriegsherr, 03 Aug 2022The fanbase constantly reminding about the hardware provide... morenah its jut because poor overheating 888 and 8gen1

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                                  • 03 Aug 2022

                                  vrvly, 02 Aug 2022Less Chinese flagships in EU means more happy Samsung, Appl... moreiphone is made in china

                                    Anonymous, 03 Aug 2022Your statement is funny, because majority of chinese phone ... moreThe fanbase constantly reminding about the hardware provided by Chinese companies. Providing specs is one, reliability is another. Both together makes a good hardware. The fail rate of those Chinese are higher compared to for say apple and Samsung. Software makes the hardware work. Full of bugs, advertising inside OS, poor customer support etc. doesn't make those top products. What would I do with specs if it doesn't work properly or fail suddenly?

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                                      Anonymous, 03 Aug 2022Invest in a NAS, and good wifi 6 system. It will upload... moreRealme is only sitting in 3-4%

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                                        • 03 Aug 2022

                                        Z, 03 Aug 2022Chinese phones are now offering better specs for the same p... moreYour statement is funny, because majority of chinese phone manufacturer (what you called superior in hardware level) are in facts using hardware invented and manufactured by Samsung.

                                        From camera sensor, amoled screen, UFS, Memory to processor all provided by samsung.

                                        The hardware innovation made by samsung are not in question anymore, because that was yesterday level.

                                        Right now Samsung is moving to the next level, focusing on software support longetivity, establishing more official stores worldwide, refining samsung ecosystem, reinventing foldable phones and increasing brand values. Those are something, any chinese brand would need decades to catch.